How many of u plays on xwis?

[LetsPl4y]

How many of u are playing on xwis and what are your nicks! Im playing on xwis my nick is LeTsPl4y! :lol:

[Statalyzer]

I usually play there as statzkeen. Sometimes I go to WOL as statlyzer to recruit ppl to XWIS.

[truefeel]

I always play on xwis with some mates of me. I play also on WOL, for playing TOE and to do a quick match. but generally, XWIS is better because a number of reason:
1.no cheaters on xwis
2.no problem with connection to the xwis server (I always have to try 3-4 times to get on wol.)


my name on xwis is Truefeel.

[KorJax]

I dont, mainly cause XWIS never works. It always says some sort of error in the chat log and it cant connect. When i do manage to connect every blue moon, there are only like 3 people on.

[workedb]

I usually play there as statzkeen. Sometimes I go to WOL as statlyzer to recruit ppl to XWIS.

Hate to say this, Statalyzer, but XWIS sux :cry:. The number of people that play on that server reflects this statement.

The programmers have done a great job with the XWIS server. The problem I believe is that they are programmers that have a vision, not businessmen. I may be wrong.

Why do you want to recruit people to XWIS, statlyzer? :uhh:

[Fulcrum]

I play on XWIS as HokumSh1 - same on WOL.

[Piscinex]

Hate to say this, Statalyzer, but XWIS sux :cry:. The number of people that play on that server reflects this statement.

The programmers have done a great job with the XWIS server. The problem I believe is that they are programmers that have a vision, not businessmen. I may be wrong.
Not only wrong, but confused. Why would they be businessmen? They're not trying to make money out of XWIS, they're providing it because WOL no longer has chat, no longer has a working ladder, is very slow, prone to be being hacked and taken offline and overrun with bots and cheaters. None of these problems exist on XWIS and the server is even administrated by the Strike Team who will reset and ban cheaters. It is essentially WOL +1, there are no drawbacks or disadvantages to XWIS as a server.

The lack of people on XWIS is due to a number of reasons:
1) Lack of promotion from EA, meaning the word about XWIS spread through word-of-mouth. Sadly this means that more casual players (those who don't play much) are less likely to hear about it.
2) The age of the game and lack of people, meaning there isn't a core base from which to build XWIS's popularity. In other words there aren't really enough people to cover multiple servers, you'll notice the Pacific and European servers are mostly empty too and the biggest server (USA) gains momentum because it has the most people.
3) General community laziness and inertia, people propping up a bad system because they can't be bothered to change it or try the alternative.
4) Defamation and propaganda from certain parties which led to the conception that XWIS somehow stole your serial number or was a "cheat" server. This damaged its popularity early on
5) Quick adoption from competetive players (because of a working ladder) means XWIS has plenty of great players but few intermediate or unskilled ones. Every game needs players of all abilities.
6) People got away with cheating for years in RA2 - so sadly the cheat-free server was alien to fair players (who had learned to live with it) and unwelcome to cheaters.

So no, the number of players on the server does not reflect how well it does its job. It's a very simple case of most people living in the house on the sand but too lazy or ignorant to move to the house on the rocks. XWIS is a great deal better than WOL in all aspects, there is no failure on the part of those who maintain and administrate the server. The failure, sadly, rests entirely with the community's inability to save itself.

[NiCoZoWN]

^^ Could not say it any better.. ;)


Xwis is a great alternative to Wol. A place worth visiting when you want to get decent games without the presence of annoying cheaters.

Xwis, the place to be.

I play there too. The nic i use there is..
.. well, be ashamed if you don't know :p





For any Red Alert (or Yuri) lover who wants to try Xwis. Click THIS (http://forums.cncden.com/showthread.php?t=8024)

[Statalyzer]

Hate to say this, Statalyzer, but XWIS sux :cry:. The number of people that play on that server reflects this statement.

The low # of people is the only real problem with XWIS, except for maybe the high ratio of elite players to average guys. Both of those can be fixed if people were not too lazy to download XWIS, or if more people knew about XWIS.

Why do you want to recruit people to XWIS, statlyzer? :uhh:

Because everything intrinstic to XWIS, the server, is better than its WOL counterpart. The only thing it's missing is # of people, which recruting can help to fix.

If you want to try XWIS and have someone to play against, I'll play you, but I doubt you have a clan there. I hardly have time to play any more, so when I do play I want it to be clan or else I'd never get in any clan games.

The low number of people on XWIS will be tough to change, but at least it is possible. The problems with WOL will never change.

[workedb]

Not only wrong, but confused. Why would they be businessmen?........The lack of people on XWIS is due to a number of reasons:
1) Lack of promotion from EA, meaning the word about XWIS spread through word-of-mouth. Sadly this means that more casual players (those who don't play much) are less likely to hear about it.
2) The age of the game and lack of people......

:D You sound like a businessman, Piscinex. Good on ya :wave:. You would make a good marketer for the Strike Team. Yeah, I was referring to business because I have studied business recently. Thats all.

The low # of people is the only real problem with XWIS, except for maybe the high ratio of elite players to average guys. Both of those can be fixed if people were not too lazy to download XWIS, or if more people knew about XWIS.

:) Yeah well, people are lazy. Hell, I buy throw-away plastic crockery and cutlery so I dont have to washup when I'm finished eating.

If you want to try XWIS and have someone to play against, I'll play you, but I doubt you have a clan there. I hardly have time to play any more, so when I do play I want it to be clan or else I'd never get in any clan games.

:wtf: Suppose that would take competition to a different level. I vaguely know what a clan game is.

[FlyingZ]

I really don't want to make enemies but some posts are so one sided I have to open my big mouth.


1) Lack of promotion from EA, meaning the word about XWIS spread through word-of-mouth. Sadly this means that more casual players (those who don't play much) are less likely to hear about it.

I have been annoyed many times by a XWIS advertising bot on WOL

2) The age of the game and lack of people, meaning there isn't a core base from which to build XWIS's popularity. In other words there aren't really enough people to cover multiple servers, you'll notice the Pacific and European servers are mostly empty too and the biggest server (USA) gains momentum because it has the most people.

The game is dieing because the WOL server is hacked 80% of the time.

3) General community laziness and inertia, people propping up a bad system because they can't be bothered to change it or try the alternative.

I check out XWIS once in a while but like most I don't stay.

4) Defamation and propaganda from certain parties which led to the conception that XWIS somehow stole your serial number or was a "cheat" server. This damaged its popularity early on

Never heard that one but heard XWIS is trying to destroy their competition several times, I don't know or care but anything is possible.

6) People got away with cheating for years in RA2 - so sadly the cheat-free server was alien to fair players (who had learned to live with it) and unwelcome to cheaters.

OMG not again, XWIS is not entirely cheat free so please quit saying it. I was cheated on XWIS! The difference is fewer people have access to the cheats.

So no, the number of players on the server does not reflect how well it does its job. It's a very simple case of most people living in the house on the sand but too lazy or ignorant to move to the house on the rocks. XWIS is a great deal better than WOL in all aspects, there is no failure on the part of those who maintain and administrate the server. The failure, sadly, rests entirely with the community's inability to save itself.


It's not me it's them, heh, heh

[Chrono69x]

I don't mean to be a nit-pick, but your post makes just about no sense.

I have been annoyed many times by a XWIS advertising bot on WOL

This has very little to do with what piscinex said. He stated that there was no promotion from E.A.
What do bots, which are ran and operated by just about anyone who can download, have to do with E.A. advertising? E.A.'s not responsible for those...
This was your first irrelevant statement.

The game is dieing because the WOL server is hacked 80% of the time.
The game was dying before the servers started getting hacked. The reason for the games' popularity diminishing is due to E.A.'s lack of community support and patching. They refused to listen, so people refused to play.

I check out XWIS once in a while but like most I don't stay.
That's part of the laziness he was talking about. People are too lazy to attempt to rally everyone on there and aren't motivated to stay on the server to help motivate other people to play on the server. Have you noticed when WOL goes down, XWIS is populated again?

Never heard that one but heard XWIS is trying to destroy their competition several times, I don't know or care but anything is possible.
Since when has XWIS had competition?

OMG not again, XWIS is not entirely cheat free so please quit saying it. I was cheated on XWIS! The difference is fewer people have access to the cheats.

This is the statement that made me want to reply. What do you mean fewer people have access to the cheats??? Cheats are just as accessable, if not more accessable, to players who play on XWIS. This is because the people who actually use XWIS have been around long enough to know where they can download the cheats if they need to (unlike those who have just bought the game and so don't know where anything is).
They have the ability to call the server cheat-free because they maintain the server such that cheating is not tolerated. If you cheat, you're punished. Cheating is not allowed. Hence, the server itself is cheat-free.

I really don't want to make enemies but some posts are so one sided I have to open my big mouth.

Please don't.

[Statalyzer]

I have been annoyed many times by a XWIS advertising bot on WOL

So have I. That's one of the things that kept me away from XWIS for awhile, I thought "SIlly to point out problems on WOL then try and make those problems worse." So whenever I see someone suggest making ad bots I try and convince them not to. Also, the rest of the bots are for n00bish cheat sites usually, so if people see the bot they'll assume XWIS is another one of those.

The game is dieing because the WOL server is hacked 80% of the time.

And it's hacked 80% of the time because the game no longer matters one iota to EA.

Never heard that one but heard XWIS is trying to destroy their competition several times

Well they do want to "beat" their competition, but destroy it? That's silly. EA has already destroyed the WOL ladder, so now WOL is just a RA2-wide community ffg site, except the community members can't talk to one another if they aren't on buddy lists, which blows the point of being a RA2-wide community.

OMG not again, XWIS is not entirely cheat free so please quit saying it. I was cheated on XWIS! The difference is fewer people have access to the cheats.

No, the difference is XWIS has people who spend their time working to stop cheaters, and WOL has nobody with either the power or the desire to do that.

[FlyingZ]

-Chrono69x-
"annoyed"
If someone put a bot on you site then asked if you would advertise for them what would you do?

"hacked 80%"
Every online game has cheaters, big whoop. WOL gets completely shut down

"don't stay"
Not my job

"competition"
See your last statement

"cheat free"
While you have a fantastic reach your statement does tell of a benefit to XWIS

"make enemies"
I suggest you calm down a bit

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-Statalyzer-
"annoyed" agreed
"hacked 80%" agree
"competition" I'll think about it
"cheat free" Ok I can get behind that

[FlyingZ]

Check out WOLBoTo, I believe the makers of the game above all others.

[workedb]

Chrono69x, your name is very familiar :\. Did you put a bot on WOL once or did a bot refer to your name?

[NiCoZoWN]

Chrono69x, your name is very familiar.

He is one of the best players around, maybe that's why.. ;)

[workedb]

He is one of the best players around, maybe that's why.. ;)

serious? I thought I was the best :D ...;)

[Chrono69x]

-Chrono69x-
"annoyed"
If someone put a bot on you site then asked if you would advertise for them what would you do?

"hacked 80%"
Every online game has cheaters, big whoop. WOL gets completely shut down

"don't stay"
Not my job

"competition"
See your last statement

"cheat free"
While you have a fantastic reach your statement does tell of a benefit to XWIS

"make enemies"
I suggest you calm down a bit


So wait, now it's the communities fault E.A. isn't helping? How long have you actually been around??
E.A. shut down their message boards because they claimed to not have the necessary resources to maintain the boards. This is obviously not true seeing as E.A. is one of the most profitable organizations in the world. They then re-directed everyone to these forums and a few months later completely shut off chat and allowed the game to die by no longer even maintaining ladders!

This is not the community's fault, it's E.A. for sheer laziness.

So to answer your question:
If I turned away from my site and disallowed everyone from communicating with eachother, then someone asked me if they could put a bot up to allow communications again, you bet your ass I would allow them to.

"hacked 80%"
Every online game has cheaters, big whoop. WOL gets completely shut down

What does this have to do with what I said? I know every game has online cheaters...the game died because E.A. didn't do anything about them. Notice games like starcraft are still alive? This is because Blizzard actually BANS cheaters, unlike E.A. did.

"don't stay"
Not my job

I never said it was. I was explaining Pisc's statement more thoroughly.

"competition"
See your last statement
You think WOL's actually COMPETITION?? That's why E.A. Germany's directly helping XWIS, right? Because competition always go out of their way to help one-another...?
I hope you grasp the hint of sarcasm...

"make enemies"
I suggest you calm down a bit
You admitted your mouth was big, implying that there was bound to be some controversial points in your post. Don't get all bent out of shape when someone calls you on those points and makes a debate about them.

He is one of the best players around, maybe that's why..

Was possibly at one point one of the better players***

I haven't played since about march...and even then it wasn't enough to be considered nearly the best :P

[workedb]

So wait, now it's the communities fault E.A. isn't helping? How long have you actually been around??
E.A. shut down their message boards because they claimed to not have the necessary resources to maintain the boards. This is obviously not true seeing as E.A. is one of the most profitable organizations in the world. They then re-directed everyone to these forums and a few months later completely shut off chat and allowed the game to die by no longer even maintaining ladders!

This is not the community's fault, it's E.A. for sheer laziness.



Here are business ideas of mine:
EA is a business. To make a profit, its essential to have a revenue - customers wanting to pay money. Businesses want a profit margin, which is used at the start of a project to forecast the businesses future revenue. The future revenue is calculated with a formula involving the profit margin and the total costs necessary for the business to earn that revenue. This requires EA to forecast the total costs involved in yuri's revenge including server and website maintenance. The costs are included in the price of the product.

Yuri's Revenge has reached its desired profit or has made a loss. From EAs view, yuri's revenge's lifetime is expired. Costs are minimised or eliminated to maintain the profit margin forecasted for that project. This is necessary so EA does not need to increase its prices on future games to achieve the same profit margin overall for its investors.
Its noones fault, Chrono69x. Its business.

[Piscinex]

You're correct in the short-term - EA didn't maintain support because the game wasn't profitable any more. In the long-term, however, not supporting the game hurts sales of future products. Why? Because EA loses its customers' trust so they won't buy any more products from them until they change their ways and start offering the level of support required.

And lest we forget EA did not provide the minimum level of support during the game's most profitable period anyway. If they had patched the games properly in 2000/2001 the game would be in a better state now, even if EA hadn't continued support for years and years (which I agree is probably too much to ask).

The relatively underwhelming sales of Generals and its expansion pack speak volumes about this issue: the main buying demographic for these titles was somehow heavily reduced. There could be any number of reasons for this, but I believe the fact that Generals had no online ladder, coupled with the customers who had been let down by the support for Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 were major reasons. Those customers went to Blizzard and never looked back, and it's much harder to get them back than it was to lose them.

[workedb]

You're correct in the short-term - EA didn't maintain support because the game wasn't profitable any more. In the long-term, however, not supporting the game hurts sales of future products. Why? Because EA loses its customers' trust so they won't buy any more products from them until they change their ways and start offering the level of support required.

It is true what you say - very useful as marketing concepts for the small business. The idea I was trying get across is the you get what you pay for cliche. Online games with a high level of support are the ones I have to pay a monthly fee by credit card.

Maybe EA's target audience isnt adults at all but kids and teenagers. I know when I was teenager I had no sense of loyalty. I had no sense at all actually :dunce:.

I bet if RA3 comes out and gets good criticisms you will be buy it, Piscinex. Thats just the way it is.

[workedb]

It is true what you say - very useful as marketing concepts for the small business. The idea I was trying get across is the you get what you pay for cliche. Online games with a high level of support are the ones I have to pay a monthly fee by credit card.

Maybe EA's target audience isnt adults at all but kids and teenagers. I know when I was teenager I had no sense of loyalty. I had no sense at all actually :dunce:.

I bet if RA3 comes out and gets good criticisms you will be buy it, Piscinex. Thats just the way it is.

Jesus. I'm a drunk :beer:. :hyper:

[Piscinex]

It is true what you say - very useful as marketing concepts for the small business. The idea I was trying get across is the you get what you pay for cliche. Online games with a high level of support are the ones I have to pay a monthly fee by credit card.
No, you're confusing the minimum level of support a multiplayer game needs with a sustained online experience (as you'd get with an MMORPG). You don't need a monthly fee to justify support: you need to offer a fairly decent level of support with an online game because if you don't keep it fairly balanced and bug- and cheat-free then it's next to worthless. A monthly fee is another level entirely: for that you need constant, updated content and a next-to-faultless online experience.

Let's be clear on this: offering an acceptable level of support is not difficult. It does not require much in the way of man power, money, resources or effort. RA2 and YR could very easily be at an acceptable standard, but EA won't even give us that minimum of effort.

Maybe EA's target audience isnt adults at all but kids and teenagers. I know when I was teenager I had no sense of loyalty. I had no sense at all actually :dunce:.
That's clearly ludicrous, and the average age of gamers is in the mid 20s these days - so think what the average age is for a franchise like C&C which is 10 years old (and makes no effort to appeal to younger gamers). Besides, why should anyone be loyal to EA? They've repeatedly abused the trust they've been given.

I bet if RA3 comes out and gets good criticisms you will be buy it, Piscinex. Thats just the way it is.
No, that's not the way it is. I was burnt once by thinking they'd turn over a new leaf with Generals. They didn't, so I for one won't be making that mistake again. On the other hand I do not hold a pointless and bitter grudge: they have improved their online support a fair amount with Battle for Middle Earth. If they make further strides with BFME2 then there is much more reason to be optimistic.

But let's not confuse the issue: if they had continued to fob off their fans with BFME I would not be entertaining the possibility of giving them another chance. For me personally they are still in the process of earning that trust again. And sadly it might well be Generals' sales which made them start listening to what the community has been telling them for 5 years.

[lcpl2504]

How many of u are playing on xwis and what are your nicks! Im playing on xwis my nick is LeTsPl4y! :lol:

hi there look for lcpl2504. i am new to the game and tend to find every 1 builds 3 times faster than me and i keep getting my ass kicked any points to help me out?:color1:

[YuriAndroklov]

hi there look for lcpl2504. i am new to the game and tend to find every 1 builds 3 times faster than me and i keep getting my ass kicked any points to help me out?:color1:


I'm call YuriA in Xwis.

[Volken45]

Im preety sure the normal internet play is XWIS now and thx for bumping a 2 yr old topic :grumpy:

[HelloDave]

NickName:HelloDave.
Clan:[ffs].
Rank:Unranked :S.
Prefered Counrty & Colour:Russia,Iraq,Cuba,Red.
and i play ra2 more often than yr.

[Daishi]

nick: JNKYRDMCH
Tactical specialty: Sov wars without the deso ^^
Fav. nations: Yuri, Libya

Have been away from RA2/YR for quite some time, playing more recent C&Cs, among other things.

If everyone builds faster than you, that just means your economy sucks. start focusing on getting more miners.

[YuriAndroklov]

Seal IFV expert. The plotter. Fast reaction, proffesion in lag games.

[Statalyzer]

If everyone builds faster than you, that just means your economy sucks. start focusing on getting more miners.

Seriously, 50% of being good at Red Alert is making money.

Prefered Counrty & Colour:Russia,Red.

I'd recommend a different country, Russia might be the worst in the game.

[YuriAndroklov]

This is what I think of YuriGagarin characteristics in Xwis.

Name: YuriG

Special: Prism and Mirage Rush, Economy Proffession, The game dragger.

[hogo98]

I play online, not much now days beings there are not many people online:(

[Daishi]

Yeah... RA2/YR has reached senility in the last few years.

[hogo98]

Yeah unfortunately i just started to try and play online again. :(
I like to play a 1 hour turtle game every now and then. XD

[nuker7735]

Game ID: nuker7738
Specialty: early game soviet tank rush, mid game terror spamming, late game prism bf spamming.
Preferred country: Cuba, Korea

I am a formidable foe if you want to play me online some time. Volken dose have a point though, this thread IS 2 years old...

[BlackMita]

Game ID: BlackMita
Specialty: Rushing, miner killing, micro management.
Preferred country: America, Yuri, Iraq

[YuriAndroklov]

Name: YuriA
Speciality: Good at lag games, build a lot and control many things at once, Seal IFV Maniac, Economy always 0, not good at Yuri, often able to use 6 grizzlies to defeat 7 of the opponent grizzlies [ I dunno what should I call this speciality :P].
Prefer Country: America, Korea, Iraq.

[Statalyzer]

Name: Statzkeen

I'll try and add everyone here to my buddy list and get rid of some old names who are never online. I don't play but a few times a month though.

[YuriAndroklov]

Name: YuriA
Speciality: Good at lag games, build a lot and control many things at once, Seal IFV Maniac, Economy always 0, not good at Yuri, often able to use 6 grizzlies to defeat 7 of the opponent grizzlies [ I dunno what should I call this speciality :P].
Prefer Country: America, Korea, Iraq.

Well, I'm fixing the westwood library, once it is fix, I will play.

[SgtRicko]

Name: SgtRicko
Specialty: Naval combat, Tank Destroyers, SW rushing
Favorite Country: Korea, sometimes Germany

I usually don't lurk in the more tournament orinetated areas... you'll mostly find me in non-stat areas.

[truefeel]

-Name: truefeel
-Speciality: strategic battles, building orders, splitters, a pair of good eyes which see everything.
-favorite country: Iraq and Korea

Available in da weekends.

[YuriAndroklov]

-Name: truefeel
-Speciality: strategic battles, building orders, splitters, a pair of good eyes which see everything.
-favorite country: Iraq and Korea

Available in da weekends.

What is splitters?

[truefeel]

Using multiple groups of units, preferable vehicles. So you can attack from multiple directions.

[YuriAndroklov]

So you are pretty good in action games? :P.

[truefeel]

More decent. The thing is with me that I make a lot of errors when I'm not pressured.

[Scoot]

Antiscoot or Scoot1

I love the game, but still have a lot to learn.

[SgtRicko]

Using multiple groups of units, preferable vehicles. So you can attack from multiple directions.

You could also have said "flanking."

[Daishi]

Flanking is on a larger scale. Splitters is more of when you're already engaged with your opponent, and you move your army into pieces and command them to move forward or sideways so that they surround the enemy.

[truefeel]

You could also have said "flanking."


That's for one target. Splitters is more for multiple targets. It's especially used against some one who is turtling like hell. when you have then more tanks, you can use your main force to attack on one spot, forcing him to defend also that spot, and using that one small group to attack his undefended spots.

[Statalyzer]

A splitter would be something like this: you and your opponent each have 24 rhinos. You send 20 of them near his force to occupy him and skirmish with him while sending the other 4 to destroy his miners.

Hopefully you avoid having your tank mass engage his en masse (since he will win that), although some shots should be fired from the edges of the formations and then you back up slightly and regroup. But even if he does fight this battle and win, he's still in trouble since he can now attack your base with 4-6 tanks, but you can also attack his with your 4 tanks and he's lost 2 or 3 miners so he can't build much to defend his base and you can.

If he sees it coming and takes his main group to the ore field, it might get strung out and spread apart, allowing your force of 20 to pick off the rearguard. Or, if he does his own split and sends 4 tanks to on defense, you'll have ALREADY split yours but he will be trying to grab 4 tanks, renumber them, and move them while you're 20 is attacking his 20, thus hurting his tank control at the beginning of the battle.

[truefeel]

That's explained in big lines ^^ .

You also forgot that you can just camp out behind fodder and pills/sentries when he attacks you with his 4-6 tanks. He would not be able to make much more tanks, b/c he lost quite a few miners. Just be sure he doesn't do the same with you and you're good to go for the win.

If the opponent does a splitter vs. you, be sure you have 2-3 tanks MORE ready then the amount of tanks in his splitters. Yes, you then have less tanks in your main force, but if you can take damage to a minimum, it's only in your advantage. If it's for example a splitter of 4 tanks, you fend it up with 7 tanks. You'll loose not more then 2-3 tanks, he will loose them all. Then you have an overall tank advantage.

[Statalyzer]

You also forgot that you can just camp out behind fodder and pills/sentries when he attacks you with his 4-6 tanks.

That was my point in saying you have enough cash to defend your base against his tanks, but he won't have enough to defend his agianst you.

That same reason is also why it's good to split when you have an advantage, to make your advantage bigger. Let's say you outnumber the enemy 24 to 20 in rhinos. If you fight that big battle you should win, but you won't be able to do much to his base with your survivors b/c he can camp out behind fodder/sentries and also in the time in takes to defeat his 20 tanks and then drive to his base, he'll have a couple of more tanks to help his fodder/sentires.

But if you just fight him 20 on 20 instead, and send 4 to his miners, if nobody wins the tank fight (mutual annihilation) but now he is doomed since you can rebuild your force and he cannot.

[truefeel]

. If you fight that big battle you should win

Theoritically speaking, yes. But if he has better TC, you could end up loosing with such big numbers. Therefore, you always want to split. He would also have to send 4 tanks or more and then you have a better position (b/c IMO you rather want to fight 16 tanks with 20 tanks instead of 20 with 24)

[JJFZ3000]

I haven't played Red Alert 2 since when it first came out. Isn't the standard server XWIS? How do you choose to play on WOL? :S

[Daishi]

The only way involves the stealthy extermination of everyone at XWIS and the refit and reinstallation of all the old systems.

WOL no longer exists. XWIS is the only way to play apart from teh LAN.

[Mercenary]

i was born xwis, you will find me as fromoto, HeaTisOn, iOwnedYou or fighter93

hope i see you people there.

[FloppyCock]

XWIS is crapp mann it's all about the WOL:x:flame::flame::flame::flame::flame::color3::evil::evil::evil::p:|:scared: