Laser turret overcharge: BUG OR TACTIC?

[Daishi]

I'm not going to explain it if it turns out to be an exploit. Anyone who knows what I'm talking about tell me: can you get banned for using it?

[OneWiseSith]

Bounce it off lion first. It is very useful, I think its a bug. Refrain from posting those things though, let Lion.

[Derek]

Go ahead and tell us, its a bug in the demo so its fairly unlikely to make it into the final game. Plus, if its a legitimate tactic then it won't matter.

[wthigon]

Demo? Zero Hour was released ages ago.. :p

[Daishi]

I meant in Zero Hour. All for the better if you don't understand. I just showed wthigon, and found out that since you can't target your extended range, which makes it look like a legit tactic. Someone else's opinion?

[Derek]

Woah! I totally thought this was the CNC3 forum! :drunk:

Yeah, I know this bug. Don't post it, might be safe to not even post a screenshot.

[Daishi]

K. Thanks.

[Derek]

Its definately not legitimate, but although its not seen too often. The synopsis for those who don't know what it is is that its a bug that allows you to approximately double the range of the laser turret. And before anyone jumps to say it, it has no relation to the similar bug in which an AA round is fired at ground units at long range, that is a different bug which is nearly impossible to intenionally exploit.

[drgNz~]

That laser bug is gay. Stupid noobs sit on Tourny Island with their 34067348967386973 laser turrets destroying your base without a single unit in their own base.

:|

[C4]

That laser bug is gay. Stupid noobs sit on Tourny Island with their 34067348967386973 laser turrets destroying your base without a single unit in their own base.:|

I've never seen such bug. Does anyone have a replay, just for knowing?

BTW, a few weeks ago someone posted about a AI LL bug (having the MDs shooting from GREAT distances). Well, i've never seen such until this last week. A friend playing TD vs medium AI was about to lose his base to 3 MDs.:D . Those Mds laserlocked everything including infantry and buildings, without pointing delay and at buggy range at least. It was fun to watch (i saved the replay).
This laser turret bug u mentioned is also for the "abominations" chest.:lol: Anyway if u really think it would be nasty even to know about, then don't post anything. I can live without it.

[Daishi]

I just found out about it last friday. This guy hit me with it on a laser mirror, I was amazed, and tried to do it back, but by then he was spammin mds and took out my power, which was in range of the stuff. I tried to counter with mdvees from my main base (he used this strat to overcome my laser turret drop) and he just used the same strategy on his front line. Iwanted to know if it was legitimate and posted it here.

[Derek]

It is not legitimate, don't tell people how to do it, don't post replays, don't even post a screenshot (the screenshot could reveal how to do it).

BTW, a few weeks ago someone posted about a AI LL bug (having the MDs shooting from GREAT distances). Well, i've never seen such until this last week. A friend playing TD vs medium AI was about to lose his base to 3 MDs. . Those Mds laserlocked everything including infantry and buildings, without pointing delay and at buggy range at least. It was fun to watch (i saved the replay).
This laser turret bug u mentioned is also for the "abominations" chest. Anyway if u really think it would be nasty even to know about, then don't post anything. I can live without it.
Thats just one of numerous AI cheats. Its impossible for a player to do.

[C4]

It is not legitimate, don't tell people how to do it, don't post replays, don't even post a screenshot (the screenshot could reveal how to do it).


Thats just one of numerous AI cheats. Its impossible for a player to do.

Ok, got it!:)

[JJFZ3000]

Of course it can't be a tactic, it's a stupid bug that EA didn't bother to fix after all of the patches.

[Sqwerlpunk]

It is a tactic, that can be purposefully exploited. Refer yourself to my other reply to you :).

[JJFZ3000]

Why didn't EA fix these bugs?

[Daishi]

It is a tactic, that can be purposefully exploited. Refer yourself to my other reply to you :).

What the ****?

It is a cheat. Nothing more or less.Why didn't EA fix these bugs?
It's a mystery to everyone. I don't see any problem with releasing GR's 1.05c and fixing the scudbug as well as the ridiculous balance issues in 1.04

[Zancloufer27]

EA can make their game 10x better by just taking someone else's work [they have permission]. IDK why they don't do it.

[drgNz~]

Because it's EA we're talking about; it's not like they're actually interested in the game ..

It is a tactic, that can be purposefully exploited. Refer yourself to my other reply to you :).

No.

[Sqwerlpunk]

A bug can be used as a tactic. If you go into the game building purposefully from the beginning to exploit a bug (scud/laser/patriot) then your tactic (albeit one that breaks the rules) is that bug. I have played games where a GLA turtles to get a scud, or laser fast builds a couple laser turrets with their insane range w/ the bug (Daishi comments on this in my other thread about the patriot bug). How is that not a tactic? It's no different from a fastlix or a techterr, it is just a bug.

[Daishi]

A bug can be used as a tactic. If you go into the game building purposefully from the beginning to exploit a bug (scud/laser/patriot) then your tactic (albeit one that breaks the rules) is that bug. I have played games where a GLA turtles to get a scud, or laser fast builds a couple laser turrets with their insane range w/ the bug (Daishi comments on this in my other thread about the patriot bug). How is that not a tactic? It's no different from a fastlix or a techterr, it is just against EA's rules (which makes it a bug at the same time).

Is your retarded ass trying to justify bug exploiting?

Bug exploiting to win is not only against the rules in every game there is, it's also generally the lamest and most unstoppably overpowered strategy possible without bug exploiting back, which is only possible with certain factions. You can say as much about effective use of the Scud bug and laser turret bug. And did you ever wonder why it's "against EA's rules" to use these bugs? That's right... because they're unfair and kill the fun of people who give two ****s about fair play.

The games you've apparently played are filled with imbeciles that opt to replace the excellent strategies that require any skill at all to gain unfair advantages. There is no exception.

[Sqwerlpunk]

Sorry let me be more clear. I do not exploit these bugs, nor have I ever. I hate people that cheat and don't allow my friends to when I play with them. I was correcting the ****tard that said that eploiting these can't be used as a tactic. All I was saying.

[Daishi]

Sorry let me be more clear. I do not exploit these bugs, nor have I ever. I hate people that cheat and don't allow my friends to when I play with them. I was correcting the ****tard that said that eploiting these can't be used as a tactic. All I was saying.
Suggesting that game-killing bugs can be used as effective strategies is the same thing as telling hopeful politicians that you can become president in a violent seizure of the capital. Sorry to be so violent, but I can't stand the misinformed people that dub it a "strategy", even if they're not as bad as the people that name it as their game-winner. It isn't a real victory won, just a disgrace, it's not a true strategy used, just an exploit, it's not an actual player playing, just a cheater.

Oh, and that ****tard you mentioned was me. :|

[Sqwerlpunk]

Sorry to insult you Diashi, I respect all your posts from my combing of this forum, it's just my opinion, even though it is a noob tactic. :/ I guess it is just a difference of opinion in what is and is not a tactic, though there would be no problem if EA would do something about bugs like these...

[Daishi]

Troo dat... all is forgiven. :)

[drgNz~]

It's not a tactic, it's an exploit.

ScudBugging isn't a tactic, neither is laser-turreting :)

End of discussion.

[SgtRicko]

Suggesting that game-killing bugs can be used as effective strategies is the same thing as telling hopeful politicians that you can become president in a violent seizure of the capital.

Tell that to any revolutionary group around the world:|

[Daishi]

They'd agree with me. They most likely cheat at ZH, too. :rofl:

[Sqwerlpunk]

They'd agree with me. They most likely cheat at ZH, too. :rofl:

LOL

[i am krazy]

my verdict: laser gen is noob general and realy the only time you would have a problem with the laser turets is if your playing on a choke point filled map (final krusade...) all in all i believe that ( if im right about what your talking about) lasers a weird weapon in zh

[Daishi]

I agree with one part of the above statement. "Lasers are a weird weapon in ZH."

We're talking about a game-killing bug and whether or not it's retarded to exploit it. God bless you for not knowing it.

[drgNz~]

Laser's not "n00b", it's the silly newbs that only play him because of the Laser Turrets that make him look so atrocious.
Laser Turrets are also blessings if you know how to use them properly (Not as in, know how to exploit the glitch).

[i am krazy]

i guess, its just i have yet to see a laser gen stop me from tearing their base apart within the first 5 minutes yea, ive been stoped by humvees and such and had to fall back a couple time cuz i didnt notice a laser turit in my base, but in the end i never lost agiasnt laser

[drgNz~]

You've never played a good USA player then.

[i am krazy]

did last night, took out his dozers and he nearly won becuase he had awsome humvee micro

[Sqwerlpunk]

Whoa, this thread is still alive?! It was started something like 2 months ago.

[chitty]

I'm guessing it's an exploit when laser turrets can target my rocket buggies before they're even in range

[Zancloufer27]

It's a bug where Laser Turrets (and Sometimes Patriots) target units out of their range. It can be exploited. The bug can be fixed, but I don't think the 1.05 patch has fixed it yet :\

[xALBx]

:lmao:Do u mean the one were u get 2 laser turrets to fire twice the range?:lmao:

:color4:If so, I think I know what ure talking about.:color4:
:evil::color3::color3:

[Daishi]

Don't feed the troll.

[Derek]

And don't spam smilies.