View Full Version : traffic jam in Leang's base
bradhig
03-20-2007, 05:41 PM
Look at this mess you would think nothing could get through that but tanks and buggies kept trying to push their way through. I had hoped leaving that there would block the briidge and force Leangs units to pile up inside. I got the idea from playing the tank general after he used ECM tanks to cripple my overlord rush.
drgNz~
03-21-2007, 12:00 AM
terrible.
Look at this mess you would think nothing could get through that but tanks and buggies kept trying to push their way through. I had hoped leaving that there would block the briidge and force Leangs units to pile up inside. I got the idea from playing the tank general after he used ECM tanks to cripple my overlord rush.
Ever asked yourself why do u play ZH anyway?
half-a-dozen Nuke silos?! :gnarly:
Traffic jamming?!:gnarly:
Overlord rush?!:freek: (just to help: rush here means "speed", "quickness", u meant spam)
Plz give me a minute while i try to figure any sense in all of this.:hmm:
...Sorry, sense not found!
My advice is: try to play the game the way it was meant to be played. There are many good advices around! ;)
Daishi
03-22-2007, 09:34 AM
He just took advantage of the AI's greatest problem. Inability to choose their targets and zero micro. That's how you win skirmishes: neutron shells.
bradhig
03-22-2007, 06:19 PM
I didn't win that game with Leang I ended up with a serious error.
Can you rush tank general and Leang?
Derek
03-22-2007, 06:40 PM
I didn't win that game with Leang I ended up with a serious error.
I wonder why... :thought:
CookieMonster
03-23-2007, 01:56 PM
Seeing as you had hundreds of units stacked onto one bridge may be the reason for the serious error. :dunce:
bradhig
03-23-2007, 06:35 PM
No Leang washed the game.
ImageKlonoa
03-23-2007, 06:39 PM
your trainer program might have pooped on ya. Too bad.
Daishi
03-23-2007, 09:40 PM
Can you rush tank general and Leang?
Yes, you can rush the tank general in challenge mode, but you have to be oober fast. As in its not gonna work with anything less than a Chinook drop.
Don't know about Leang, she's a bit intimidating to try it out. Especially with all the garrisons that block your road out.
SgtRicko
03-23-2007, 09:52 PM
Yes, you can rush the tank general in challenge mode, but you have to be oober fast. As in its not gonna work with anything less than a Chinook drop.
Don't know about Leang, she's a bit intimidating to try it out. Especially with all the garrisons that block your road out.
It's not possible. She starts out fully powered and fortified, and the road is too long and winding, so it's not worth it. And even if you did reach her base, you'd quickly find that there's no way in that's not insanely well protected.
bradhig
03-25-2007, 05:45 PM
The only way I know how to beat her is to keep sending vehicles onto the bridge to keep hers from getting out and then build a ton of superweapons and blow her away.
The only way I know how to beat her is to keep sending vehicles onto the bridge to keep hers from getting out and then build a ton of superweapons and blow her away.
Or use strategy instead...
That map can't be rushed but it was meant to be that way. U can go playing as u would be playing a normal campaign map. Progressing on the terrain, capture key strategic points, build a SW to attack a precise point,... u name it. "Build tons of SW" is the sick way to do it. Force yourself to use strategy. Its rewarding enough for me. Try it, maybe u'll like it too... :)
And BTW as a GLA gen it's wonderfully easy!
Daishi
03-26-2007, 08:56 AM
Or use strategy instead...
That map can't be rushed but it was meant to be that way. U can go playing as u would be playing a normal campaign map. Progressing on the terrain, capture key strategic points, build a SW to attack a precise point,... u name it. "Build tons of SW" is the sick way to do it. Force yourself to use strategy. Its rewarding enough for me. Try it, maybe u'll like it too... :)
And BTW as a GLA gen it's wonderfully easy!
Bunker/SW will get you past any AI match. :rolleyes:
bradhig
03-26-2007, 07:15 PM
What do you mean by bunker?
Daishi
03-26-2007, 08:28 PM
Make a few defenses at the choke points so that nothing can get through, have a few aircraft or buggies ready to deal with artillery, and then all there is to do is make a few SWs. That's bunker/sw for ya.
Kiefer13
03-27-2007, 02:53 PM
Make a few defenses at the choke points so that nothing can get through, have a few aircraft or buggies ready to deal with artillery, and then all there is to do is make a few SWs. That's bunker/sw for ya.
Boring as hell to play though.... It's ok in MP cause the enmy can counter it, but the AI are just too dumb to counter a good bunker/SW. :(
Daishi
03-27-2007, 04:30 PM
I wouldn't recommend bunker-sw in multiplayer unless its a GLA mirror. Otherwise he uses the units he made to find a better way across, or he systematically owns ur defenses.
drgNz~
03-27-2007, 04:43 PM
I wouldn't recommend bunker-sw in multiplayer unless its a GLA mirror.
Your opponent grabs middle while you're bunkering and gets on 4 supplies + 1 derek, in which he proceeds to tech faster than you and build 698374698376 scudstorms.
Zancloufer27
03-27-2007, 04:57 PM
Hmm, how can he grab the middle if you already have it? Also, if he has 698374698376 off 2 supplies, how much do you have with 4 =P
drgNz~
03-28-2007, 12:44 AM
There's a difference between bunkering and camping middle. If you're gonna focus on bunkering up (in which I imagine you'd get extra tunnels on flanks instead of units) then I'm fairly sure he'd either get middle before you, or simply take it from you (RPG + Quad + Toxin Tractors > Your middle without units) in which case he then proceeds to run off 4 supplies and 1 derek (assuming he knows what he's doing), which leads to a much quicker/conveniant tech (while still spamming units), which in turn leads to his 698374698376 scudstorms.
Daishi
03-28-2007, 06:55 AM
with the flanks intact, all you have to do is tunnel-pop a few SCUD Launchers with a few backup units to rip the middle to shreds.
Bunker/SW will get you past any AI match. :rolleyes:
But teaches u nothing. Play it well, attack, build a SW and make good use of it. Force yourself to deal with the adversity and innovate.:| Even against the AI (cheater donkey) u can make use of good strategies and improve your game a little every play.
:gnarly: (quoting drgNz) "building 37863874628 SW" is sick:gnarly: . Why not play "easy"? it will give a 60 min delay to enemy SW (in challenges). Wow!!!:gnarly:
Zancloufer27
03-28-2007, 02:37 PM
I beat the Stealth Gen challenge without making any SW, and only having 8 defenses [Including tunnels xD]
TBH, making 2-3 defenses to watch the flanks, and sending a large attack is more fun =P
drgNz~
03-28-2007, 04:51 PM
with the flanks intact, all you have to do is tunnel-pop a few SCUD Launchers with a few backup units to rip the middle to shreds.
By the time you can afford to have Scud Launchers, your opponent is going to have a large number of buggies/BBs, so you can assault middle for a while until he/she decides to pop some buggies/bbs out of a tunnel, own your scuds, then the rest of your units.
bradhig
03-28-2007, 06:04 PM
There's a difference between bunkering and camping middle. If you're gonna focus on bunkering up (in which I imagine you'd get extra tunnels on flanks instead of units) then I'm fairly sure he'd either get middle before you, or simply take it from you (RPG + Quad + Toxin Tractors > Your middle without units) in which case he then proceeds to run off 4 supplies and 1 derek (assuming he knows what he's doing), which leads to a much quicker/conveniant tech (while still spamming units), which in turn leads to his 698374698376 scudstorms.
Are you sure they weren't scudbugging?
Daishi
03-28-2007, 07:07 PM
Good one.
Yeah, I think he knows how to make sure. :dead:
yurihomer
03-28-2007, 09:17 PM
well in my opinion, in gla mirror, unless its exact mirror, then bunkering is alright. expecially stealth vs stealth, where bunkering in late game can be helpful since most of the time it ends up one cannot kill the other. so prob end up getting scud storms. on the other case, its not a very good idea to bunker, since ur opponent prob can take middle, and tech up, get scud launcher and just kill all of ur defences, sending in the units, and out number ur's.
drgNz~
03-29-2007, 01:25 AM
Are you sure they weren't scudbugging?
Your opponent grabs middle while you're bunkering and gets on 4 supplies + 1 derek, in which he proceeds to tech faster than you and build 698374698376 scudstorms.
I underlined the bold/italic keyword for you.
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