World Map- Blue, Yellow, and Red Zones

[MercZ]

I searched for some on the internet, and save for one outdated one, I can't find a good one. Has anyone compiled one, or is planning to?

(What I mean is a world map showing what zones are present in the world)

Edit-

Google Earth Plugin showing zones (http://www.ea.com/tiberiumearth/)

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Derek's rendition
Ok, here is my rendition. It took a lot longer than I expected, especially hard was Europe, the video gives no good views of it so its hard to tell about a lot of things, for example I have all of Scandanavia painted blue, but the north eastern part of Scandanavia never actually appears in the video. Still, I think I got most everything pretty accurately. You can notice some patterns, such as large red zones seem to center around major rivers (with the Mediterranean red zone being the main exception). Also note that some area of the map are not shown as part of any zone in the video, this is clearly intentional because these areas are entirely cold places such as mountains and areas in the arctic. I suppose we could call these "white zones", where there is no tiberium but the land is still not suitable for large human populations.

http://i14.tinypic.com/2qsnpmp.jpg

[Spider786]

theres actually a thread in this forum, try searching for it.

[MercZ]

I did, but I just came up with how those will affect skirmish play and an older one started by me about the campaign mode in regards to Theatres, but I'll search again.

[CrowRbot]

Yeah, if you're thinking of this thread (http://forums.cncden.com/showthread.php?t=19113&highlight=world+map), it doesn't show the entire world and the colors are related to the campaign (red for Nod and blue for GDI).

I don't have the game, but from the Scrin Prologue on Youtube, it looks like the Red Zones are in Eastern Africa, the Middle East (except the Arabian Peninsula), and either South or Southeast Asia. I would suspect the Yellow Zones are predominantly located adjacent to Red Zones, and the blue ones are farthest away and dependent partially on the ability of the nations to combat tiberium growth (in turn dependent upon wealth and relationship to GDI or Nod).

[Zardac the Great]

The Eastern Seaboard of the US is Blue, as apparently is New Mexico.

Italy is the World's largest Red Zone, while Eastern Europe is Yellow. Most of North America is Yellow, I believe, with the interior being Red. Germany is Blue, and was the first one to be reclaimed from a Yellow Zone.

Australia seems to be Red.

That's all I can think of now. I'll have to play the campaign again.

[SgtRicko]

The Eastern Seaboard of the US is Blue, as apparently is New Mexico.

Italy is the World's largest Red Zone, while Eastern Europe is Yellow. Most of North America is Yellow, I believe, with the interior being Red. Germany is Blue, and was the first one to be reclaimed from a Yellow Zone.

Australia seems to be Red.

That's all I can think of now. I'll have to play the campaign again.

That's just about right.

BTW, to finish the list, Russia is mostly yellow, with Kazakstan, Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan being red. China is mostly a red zone, along with most of southeast Asia. Taiwan and parts of Indonesia seem to be blue mixed with yellow, but Malaysia is mostly red.

[CrowRbot]

I find that weird though. It seemed like tiberium had areas it liked to grow more than others. I remember reading that it grew more slowly in dry and cold environments. Antarctica (at least in Tiberian Sun) was supposed to be one of the few untainted areas of the world left. Areas like the Himalayas and Central Asia are likewise cold and relatively dry... so why would Central Asia be mostly red? It seems like it would be one of the last places for tiberium to spread due to natural impediments. Southeast Asia sounds about right though.

I'm sure what you're saying is found in the game, but the way tiberium is supposed to grow would make what we're seeing in CNC3 very strange.

[SgtRicko]

Actually, it kinda makes sense that Tiberium would spread FAR more quickly in third world countries due to the fact that the Brotherhood has dominance over those areas and wishes to spread it whereever they can, senseless as that logic they have is (I mean, why the hell would you infect the lands WHERE YOU LIVE AT!?!)

[Lazzars]

well they did say it evolved, it would have to adapt in some way to the climate and weather of where it was growing

wouldn't it make more sense for Europe to be a big red zone as that is the continent closest to ground zero

anyone still got that old promo picture for C&C3 where the guy had half turned into tiberium? if that happens when your around tiberium then it seems kinda mental to seed that in your own home

[MercZ]

Most of mainland Europe is yellow, with the exception of Germany and that part of Switzerland. Those haven't turn red as most of those were GDI supporters, so GDI's been trying to control the growth in those areas using their sonic resonance tech.

[Rolk]

I threw together this, just for fun. Information I got was from the GDI Prologue intro.

It is, rough still.

[Gaucho8788]

But still it's a good representation. How long did it take you to put it together.

[Rolk]

About 10 minutes, if you want I can take more time and make it a bit more presentable.

[SgtRicko]

Hmmm, your map has quite a few oversights Rolk. Best if you redo it, cause I sure as hell know that large parts of Africa and most of southern Europe was a Red Zone.:squint:

[Thisnameislame]

And that there's some blue zones in Europe

[hissingnewt]

If somebody takes pictures of the globe in a video with the map and zones, they can photoshop it and make a complete map.

[GGdown]

That's a pretty good start, but it needs some quite dramatic refinements. The Amazon desert is only a yellow zone, not red. There's quite a bit of red in Africa, as well as Italy, while Germany, the UK and Iceland are all blue.

Where did you get the info about the red zones in Asia and indionesia?

[Gaucho8788]

About 10 minutes, if you want I can take more time and make it a bit more presentable.

That would be cool if you could take more time to make it more accurate and presentable.

[Derek]

I'm going to go take some screenshots of that globe, I'll see if I can make a better map with them.

[Rolk]

Hmmm, your map has quite a few oversights Rolk. Best if you redo it, cause I sure as hell know that large parts of Africa and most of southern Europe was a Red Zone.:squint:


Thats exactly what it showed up as in the video... well mostly.. not exactly, lol... shhh

[Derek]

Ok, here is my rendition. It took a lot longer than I expected, especially hard was Europe, the video gives no good views of it so its hard to tell about a lot of things, for example I have all of Scandanavia painted blue, but the north eastern part of Scandanavia never actually appears in the video. Still, I think I got most everything pretty accurately. You can notice some patterns, such as large red zones seem to center around major rivers (with the Mediterranean red zone being the main exception). Also note that some area of the map are not shown as part of any zone in the video, this is clearly intentional because these areas are entirely cold places such as mountains and areas in the arctic. I suppose we could call these "white zones", where there is no tiberium but the land is still not suitable for large human populations.

http://i14.tinypic.com/2qsnpmp.jpg

[CrowRbot]

Ah, that fits what I thought it might look like much better. Thanks!

[Rolk]

You've got the wrong side of Australia painted blue... ;)

Edit, nope I do HAHA
Edit again, its the bottom half of NZ that is blue, not the top...

[Gaucho8788]

Nice Derek. Great representation.

[GGdown]

I'm still convinced that the amazon desert is only a yellow zone, but otherwise, it looks pretty good!

[Derek]

I'm still convinced that the amazon desert is only a yellow zone, but otherwise, it looks pretty good!
First of all you mean Amazon Rainforest. Second, its definately a red zone. Watch the movie again, its the big red blob in the middle of South America, and its also the hole in the middle of South America when looking at the yellow map.

[Thisnameislame]

Is it just me, or do some divisions of zones follow exact national borders? (Like Spain and Portugal.) Interesting...

[Derek]

In the original map (shown in a trailor before the game was released) all the zones were deliniated by national boundaries, but they've changed it now. Although some areas seem to pretty clearly follow the borders (such as Portugal, which you mentioned), most do not. The most common clear borders now seem to be tributaries of major rivers, where most red zones are located. Other borders seem to be more or less random.

[Lazzars]

First of all you mean Amazon Rainforest. Second, its definately a red zone. Watch the movie again, its the big red blob in the middle of South America, and its also the hole in the middle of South America when looking at the yellow map.

replay game derick they call it the amazon desert in the nod campaign

(i hope)

[Derek]

replay game derick they call it the amazon desert in the nod campaign

(i hope)
1. I've not played the entire campaign
2. I'm talking about real world locations. In the game fiction tiberium has drasitcally altered the climate, so it could plausibly be a desert. But its the real-world Amazon Rainforest.

[gho$tface]

replay game derick they call it the amazon desert in the nod campaign

(i hope)
Yeah your right, I thought that was weird too.

[mrchris]

Why is Italy missing from the map? I also thought I saw a small portion of SW N. America that was red..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=__lZPtpo26E

How in the world did most of China become a red zone?

[Zardac the Great]

The Nod cell in Tokyo the previous Tiberium game's manuals referred to kept spreading Tiberium when they snuck into the mainland. :D

[GGdown]

Sorry guys, while it is the amazon rainforest in real life, for the whole of that portion of the Nod campaign they refer to it as the Amazon desert. Presumably it's been made a desert due to tiberium. Also, ingame it's clearly a yellow zone, there's noticable traces of civilisation, none of those giant tiberium formations and no blue tiberium.

[Derek]

Sorry guys, while it is the amazon rainforest in real life, for the whole of that portion of the Nod campaign they refer to it as the Amazon desert. Presumably it's been made a desert due to tiberium. Also, ingame it's clearly a yellow zone, there's noticable traces of civilisation, none of those giant tiberium formations and no blue tiberium.
Yay for inconsistancies?

[Wesforce]

Ireland has Tiberium, while the rest of Britain is free, haha :D

[Lazzars]

Ireland has Tiberium, while the rest of Britain is free, haha :D

well you wouldn't expect ireland to miss out on something green would you

[SgtRicko]

I'm pretty sure that Alaska was Blue...

[GGdown]

Yay for inconsistancies?
Guess so.

[Derek]

A bit further into the campaign now, they do in fact call the Amazon Rainforest a yellow zone, but it is clearly a red zone in the intro movie, which is my source for this map. Alaska also appears as a Blue Zone in a map in one of the cutscenes. Looking back at the screenshots I took from the prologue its a hard call, Alaska is at a bad angle in the blue zone shots.

[GGdown]

Well as well as being called a yellow zone, it also pretty obviously is a yellow zone in the actual level. Maybe bordering on red at times, but still pretty much yellow.

[red_pr!nce]

How in the world did most of China become a red zone?

Actually, only the central part of China which is in the Red Zone. It includes Tibet, Xinjiang, Gansu, Qinhai, Sichuan, Yunnan, and several provinces to Hubei and Hunan. The Chinese Pacific Seaboard (a home to numerous economically advanced cities) is still in the Yellow Zone.

[CrowRbot]

True, the major population centers are still in the yellow zone (except Sichuan, which I think has 125 million people alone... that's a big red zone:dead: ). Still, yellow zones are described as what we'd consider third world hotspots today, so the cities remaining are probably struggling.:\

What really confuses me is how high-altitude, dry, and cold locations in the Himalayas, like Tibet and Central Asia, are in the red. The environment seems highly resistant to tiberium (though yes, it can evolve), and they aren't exactly prime areas in terms of human habitation (debunking the ideas of "seeding" areas- why do that in places where few people live to begin with?).

[red_pr!nce]

Yap. Let's hope that the GDI can stabilize these Chinese Yellow Zones and turn them into the Blue Zone in the CnC3 Expansion Pack...

[CrowRbot]

True, though even the US is having trouble with containment, so it might take a while before a lot of the world is reached. The good news though is that Japan and Korea are blue, so perhaps they could give a hand. Are there any campaign missions in China? I'd have to wonder what's happening there.

Also, what has happened to the populations of countries turned completely red? Are they just wiped out, or are there refugees? Are there governments still representative of, say, Italy and Greece?

[Derek]

I don't think the game really covers that, but I highly doubt it. The US government is apparently still functional, but how much control it has over the yellow zones is questionable.

[red_pr!nce]

Maybe most of the populations in these Ichor-infested Red Zones have been evacuated to the Blue Zone (a proper way), or they managed to reach the Yellow Zone (a hard way) only to find themselves recruited by the Brotherhood. Other possibility: dead or turned into mutants.

There's no civilization in the Red Zone.

[CrowRbot]

Of course, we'd also have to wonder if the government functions as it does today as well. The GDI-supporting nations have been militarized against Nod for decades now, and who knows what repercussions that could have on the governments in the long term. Yellow zone locations may be hard to call nations at this point.

Oh yeah, and what did you mean by "I don't think the game really covers that." Covers what? Sorry, I'm just a bit confused.

[Derek]

Oh yeah, and what did you mean by "I don't think the game really covers that." Covers what? Sorry, I'm just a bit confused.
Covers the status of Red Zone countries.

[CrowRbot]

Oh okay, well, without the game, all I'm left with is personal speculation. I guess I have a lot of questions that will probably never be answered. Oh well.:p

[SgtRicko]

Oh okay, well, without the game, all I'm left with is personal speculation. I guess I have a lot of questions that will probably never be answered. Oh well.:p

I think the game states several times that the Red Zones are a no-mans land, and that Yellow Zones ownership is in constant flux due to all the combat.

[Derek]

Oh okay, well, without the game, all I'm left with is personal speculation. I guess I have a lot of questions that will probably never be answered. Oh well.:p
All your questions will eventually be answered, but only when you come home :p

(Speaking of which, aren't you coming home this summer?)

[CrowRbot]

I'll most likely return in August. My work ends in the middle of June, but I'll have a nice pile of cash (40,000 RMB, which comes to a paltry $5000 with exchange rates) to putter around the country on. My visa doesn't expire until August 25, so I figure I should make the most of it before going back- especially seeing as how I'll need a job in the US to tide me over while I apply and wait for graduate school. Anyway, I will buy the game once I get the specs on my desktop- there's no way it will run on my laptop (damn you, integrated graphics card!), and I may need to purchase at least a new graphics card for my desktop. I tried to download the demo, but there's no way I can get 1+ GB from a server in the US in any timely fashion.:dead:

[M2M]

I'll most likely return in August. My work ends in the middle of June, but I'll have a nice pile of cash (40,000 RMB, which comes to a paltry $5000 with exchange rates) to putter around the country on. My visa doesn't expire until August 25, so I figure I should make the most of it before going back- especially seeing as how I'll need a job in the US to tide me over while I apply and wait for graduate school. Anyway, I will buy the game once I get the specs on my desktop- there's no way it will run on my laptop (damn you, integrated graphics card!), and I may need to purchase at least a new graphics card for my desktop. I tried to download the demo, but there's no way I can get 1+ GB from a server in the US in any timely fashion.:dead:

pity

[CrowRbot]

pity? What for? Apart from not getting CNC3 when it's out (legally, anyway- I am somewhat a man of principles :shifty: ), I have no problems being here. Believe me also when I say that getting that game, while I want to buy it quite a bit, is low on my list of priorities.

[Zardac the Great]

Of course, we'd also have to wonder if the government functions as it does today as well.


Well, the game comes out and says that soverignty (sp) has been ceeded go GDI. I saw US flags in Washington, but GDI runs the Pentagon, and Nod sees the White House as nothing more than a tourist trap.

The nations technically still exist, but seem to be puppets of one of the true nations: GDI or Nod.

[Daishi]

Whereas the blue zones are GDI territory and Nod curtains the yellow zones. I think of the political borders as those of the world's largest gang war.

[Gaucho8788]

Yeah, GDI would have been in a lot better shape if they tried to keep control of at least some of the yellow zone. Oh well.

[Alpha and Omega]

Does anyone else see the use of Tiberium as a metaphor for Global Warming?

Think about it, it's increased the dersertification of the world. Scientists from the highly-industrialized nations tried to keep it under wraps for a short time. It makes weather unpredicatable, with giant ion storms everywhere. It's worse in third-world and industrializing nations that have lots of pollution.

Discuss...

[Derek]

Yeah, GDI would have been in a lot better shape if they tried to keep control of at least some of the yellow zone. Oh well.
They did, but there were too many yellow zones for them to control them all. GDI has a lot bases in yellow zones, they just don't have much influence.

Does anyone else see the use of Tiberium as a metaphor for Global Warming?

Think about it, it's increased the dersertification of the world. Scientists from the highly-industrialized nations tried to keep it under wraps for a short time. It makes weather unpredicatable, with giant ion storms everywhere. It's worse in third-world and industrializing nations that have lots of pollution.

Discuss...
Not really, those are all really just common themes in post-apocalyptic environments.

[Wesforce]

I tend to think the series as a whole has more in common with this book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Genocides than any Global Warming metaphor. It shares the themes of chaos and despair, people pulling together to try and get through harsh times, fanatic religious cults, and an Earth that resembles more of an alien world than the one we once knew, what with seemingly unstoppable plants everywhere.

Not that I;m suggesting plagiarism... But everyone gets influences from somewhere, and I think this may be it. Not global warming.

Remember that Westwood were all Las-Vegas based anyway. Would they even notice global warming in that hellhole? :D

[red_pr!nce]

Does anyone else see the use of Tiberium as a metaphor for Global Warming?

Think about it, it's increased the dersertification of the world. Scientists from the highly-industrialized nations tried to keep it under wraps for a short time. It makes weather unpredicatable, with giant ion storms everywhere. It's worse in third-world and industrializing nations that have lots of pollution.

Discuss...

But, at least, global warming did not come from aliens. :color2:

[Alpha and Omega]

What really confuses me is how high-altitude, dry, and cold locations in the Himalayas, like Tibet and Central Asia, are in the red. The environment seems highly resistant to tiberium (though yes, it can evolve), and they aren't exactly prime areas in terms of human habitation (debunking the ideas of "seeding" areas- why do that in places where few people live to begin with?).

If there's no one there, wh owould harvest the Tiberium? It's likely that harvesting operations in other parts of the world would slow the spread of Tiberium in those regions. But there's no way to really do that in the Himalayas, so it grew unimpeded.

[KrasnyOktyabr]

But, at least, global warming did not come from aliens. :color2:

You think.

[Apolo]

I think this what your all looking for i actualy found it on Planet C&C.My apologies if this images has all ready been posted,or if its not what your looking for.




http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3442/worldofcnc3ar9.jpg

[Derek]

I think this what your all looking for i actualy found it on Planet C&C.My apologies if this images has all ready been posted,or if its not what your looking for.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3442/worldofcnc3ar9.jpg
Thats strictly divided by countries, meaning its missed a lot of details.

[Apolo]

Ohh sorry i should of read the topic started a little more closly :redface:

[mrchris]

Antartica a yellow zone?? :lol:

[MercZ]

The most accurate map we have atm is the one made by Derek I stuck on the first page.

[sterio]

Antartica a yellow zone?? :lol:

Wasn't it in TS that the GDI had some sort of plan to move most of the people to the polar areas... I wonder what happened to that...

Also: Great thread, and great map Derek! I just bumped into this, and I'm so happy, I've been thinking a lot about it :p

[SgtRicko]

I think this what your all looking for i actualy found it on Planet C&C.My apologies if this images has all ready been posted,or if its not what your looking for.




http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3442/worldofcnc3ar9.jpg

That map is still rather inaccurate, even to the older by-nation model of the Tiberium spread. It shows Iraq and Saudi Arabia as yellow: they were actually red (and still are, even in the new map). Also, I'm pretty sure that Portugal was Blue, even back then.

[red_pr!nce]

The island of Sumatra and Borneo in Indonesia are Red Zones, not Yellow Zones. :)

[Soviet779]

Well i dont know if this is a repost or not but EA has one upped all your maps :P

http://www.ea.com/tiberiumearth/

Use google earth to view earth in 2047

[Derek]

Well i dont know if this is a repost or not but EA has one upped all your maps :P

http://www.ea.com/tiberiumearth/

Use google earth to view earth in 2047
When was that put up?

Anyways, judging by that I did a really good job. I left out Alaska and I had the islands of New Zealand mixed up, but other than that I had everything right (ignoring fine details).

Their map also puts my in a Blue Zone, which makes me feel a lot better :p All though their map still conflicts with their fiction, such as the Amazon being yellow in the game but red on the map, and there is no (significant) yellow zone in North Carolina on the map, but there were "North Carolina Badlands" in the game.

[MercZ]

Well i dont know if this is a repost or not but EA has one upped all your maps :P

http://www.ea.com/tiberiumearth/

Use google earth to view earth in 2047

That's pretty nice! Derek did get it pretty close though.

[mrchris]

Wow, heartland of America is a big Red Zone :wtf:

North Korea is a Blue Zone :lol:

Derek: Maybe because the Brazil map was red because Nod's color is red?

[CrowRbot]

It may well be that Korea was reunited in the Tiberium universe. It's hard to speculate though.

[SgtRicko]

It may well be that Korea was reunited in the Tiberium universe. It's hard to speculate though.

Mostly likely yeah. It would be near-impossible for North Korea to stay afloat once the Tiberium starts to infect their area.

[CrowRbot]

Good point there. Actually, the bigger question would be how South Korea could survive unification. The economic impact of uniting East and West Germany would pale in comparison with uniting North and South Korea given their substantially greater differences in wealth. My only guess is Japan buttressed them (which would be rather humiliating to some nationalists, but desperate times I guess).

[Derek]

Or perhaps South Korea used the money from Tiberium to help boost the North during unification. Remember that Tiberium was an economic boon to those who could handle it, and I think South Korea would be suffeciantly advanced to fall into this category.

[SgtRicko]

Actually come to think of it, Nod would probably give the North the technology required to mine tiberium, just for the sake of giving the GDI another front to worry about in the future when they get cocky and decide to invade with their newfound resource pool.

[red_pr!nce]

Then, North Korea falls to the Brotherhood, even though it is located in the Blue Zone. Nod has bases in the Blue Zones as well.

[sterio]

Actually come to think of it, Nod would probably give the North the technology required to mine tiberium, just for the sake of giving the GDI another front to worry about in the future when they get cocky and decide to invade with their newfound resource pool.

I seriously doubt it. You notice that normal states seem to have almost collapsed, and I think that if North Korea is marked as blue, it's probably almost tiberium-free, and therefore almost certainly under GDI control. Both the north and south Korean states have probably ceased to exist in any traditional sense. Reunification will probably have been hard, as Crow said, but then the world has generally been going through hard times, and Korea's problems probably won't seem to big in comparison...

Also: What is there to say there was a split in the first place? After all, world history has been completely different in the C&C world. Although it annoys me a lot to see they haven't taken that into account when drawing borders on ingame maps. (Such as on the balkans, with the borders being as they were before Montenegro split from Yugoslavia.)

[Derek]

Well the tiberium timeline split from the real world (at least significantly) in the 90's when tiberium first came to Earth, so Korea probably had split.

[sterio]

That is, if you consider the Tiberium and Red Alert timelines seperate. I do not.

[Derek]

TBH I think there is insuffecient evidence at this point to make that assumption. We have a few cameos in RA1, and thats about it.

[red_pr!nce]

If the Tiberium universe is the continuation of the Red Alert universe, then it is almost impossible to think the world as it is. Many countries will cease to exist, or even their alignment will be different from the ones in the "real" world.

[Zardac the Great]

TBH I think there is insuffecient evidence at this point to make that assumption. We have a few cameos in RA1, and thats about it.


But those cameos were obviously intended to link the timelines.

[MercZ]

It is if you consider RA 1 alone. RA2 threw things out of balance and created a Red Alert universe.

[Derek]

But those cameos were obviously intended to link the timelines.
Or they were just cameos.

There was some rough framework for a connection in RA1, but RA2 went in a completely different direction and its best to consider the games entirely seperate.

[SgtRicko]

Or they were just cameos.

There was some rough framework for a connection in RA1, but RA2 went in a completely different direction and its best to consider the games entirely seperate.

I'm thinking that they're literally two separate timelines caused by Einstein's assasination of Hitler.

And I also think that we'll eventually see Kane in the RA universe in a much more official sense, probably in the next RA game, in fact.