Ungamed C&C war

[Zardac the Great]

Greetings!

Red Alert 2 seems to not be in the Tiberian timeline, but Red Alert 1 preceded both, and therefore any events during or before RA1 are in both timelines.

In RA2, Pearl Harbor has the Arizona Memorial. This leads me to the conclusion that America fought Japan in the Pacific, either during Red Alert or previous to that war. We know that Germany never became Nazi, and eventually joined the Alliance, but no thought was ever taken as to Japan.

Any ideas? Do you think we'll eventually get a C&C with US vs. Japan?

[Daishi]

Both errors can be taken as historical coincidences. There WAS a war that reached the Pacific, only it was America vs. the Soviets, and the Soviets would probably have chosen the same targets as Japan. And the memorials aren't named in RA2 as they are in real life: The Iwo Jima memorial could have been crafted from any battle of the period, based off of an similar photograph. The USS Arizona apparently was destroyed in-port as it is depicted in the campaigns, but no one said it was Japan that fought the battles.

[wargrudge]

I really don't understand why people always insist on trying to figure out the time-line. There are more plot holes than a B movie sci-fi flick.

[SgtRicko]

I really don't understand why people always insist on trying to figure out the time-line. There are more plot holes than a B movie sci-fi flick.

Good Point.

[Mikael Grizzly]

I really don't understand why people always insist on trying to figure out the time-line. There are more plot holes than a B movie sci-fi flick.

Plotholes? No.

Loose ends? Yes.

That is a difference. Big difference.

[Zardac the Great]

I really don't understand why people always insist on trying to figure out the time-line. There are more plot holes than a B movie sci-fi flick.


Because it's fun? Because there is some slight, small chance that we can get a decent game or mod out of it?

[wargrudge]

Decent games are up to the developers, not the fans. Mods on the other hand, are based on imagination. Trying to tie up the different time-lines would be quite an endeavour, and may be well worth the effort, but many times a mod is made to re-create some other game, enhance the gameplay of a certain unsatisfactory game (in regards to depth and difficulty), or just make it cooler.

[Cylon Crusader]

Way back in the day, before EA took over Westwood Studios, there was a perfect storyline linking the Tiberian and Red Alert universes together. The basic gist of it was that if in RA the soviets won, that would lead to Nod taking power in the future, if the Allies won then the GDI would be in control of the planet in the future. It was all supposed to come together if EA hadn't taken over Westwood (damn EA).I forgot where I got this info, it was a couple of years ago , but i will try and find it again and post it here when I do so.Greetings!

Red Alert 2 seems to not be in the Tiberian timeline, but Red Alert 1 preceded both, and therefore any events during or before RA1 are in both timelines.

In RA2, Pearl Harbor has the Arizona Memorial. This leads me to the conclusion that America fought Japan in the Pacific, either during Red Alert or previous to that war. We know that Germany never became Nazi, and eventually joined the Alliance, but no thought was ever taken as to Japan.

Any ideas? Do you think we'll eventually get a C&C with US vs. Japan?

The USS Arizona could have been destroyed in RA or RA 2 by the Soviets for all we know.

[MercZ]

RA2 threw everything out of order. There we go. I really see no point in trying to fit it into the current timeline. ATM, when I think in regards to the Tiberium universe, I just disregard RA2's storyline. I see RA2 as an alternate way the world may've gone with out Tiberium.

[SgtRicko]

RA2 threw everything out of order. There we go. I really see no point in trying to fit it into the current timeline. ATM, when I think in regards to the Tiberium universe, I just disregard RA2's storyline. I see RA2 as an alternate way the world may've gone with out Tiberium.

I got an odd feeling that Kane has a Chronoshpere hidden away in some unknown bunker that only he's aware of...:rockbrow:

[Delta-4]

Or maybe he stole the time machine after the Allies beat back Yuri. Or maybe both. You never know.

[Gaucho8788]

I just think that Kane has a bunch of clones made up his consciousness is stored in a storage computer that is hidden away in some sort of hidden under ground base with the empty clone bodies. His stored consciousness is transferred into a new body when his current one is killed and he comes back to life. Or he found a way to increase his life by hundreds of years and knows magic or is able to transport out of any situation in a way that makes him look dead. Strictly a hypothetical opinion but I think It's a good one. Anyways about the to time lines. Until they come in and somehow create a game that logically combines the two time lines then if you actually think about it, it's just another way that it could have turned out just completely away from the tibeirium universe. Though combining the two completely could mean the end of that line so I think it should be left as is.

[reignofevil]

I really hate those that think westwood had a PERFECT idea as to what would happen, then EA came and killed it. I have no love for EA but still I HIGHLY doubt it.

[Statalyzer]

There's no reason to assume that the Arizona was sunk by the Soviets. Removing Hitler wouldn't have made Japan behave any differently towards the USA.

I really don't understand why people always insist on trying to figure out the time-line. There are more plot holes than a B movie sci-fi flick.

Only YR contains any problematic plotholes.

[Gaucho8788]

I really hate those that think westwood had a PERFECT idea as to what would happen, then EA came and killed it. I have no love for EA but still I HIGHLY doubt it.

This is very true. Actually they probably did intend for them to be entirely different, thus, being able to continue both and possibly merge them later on. It doesn't matter anymore, but it is fun to think of ways to connect the two.:D

[SgtRicko]

Only YR contains any problematic plotholes.

Kane exsisting in the 1940s and only appearing in the Soviet campaign is a pretty big plothole in itself, since that story honestly doesn't jive with the world map and political scene of Tib Dawn, especially if the commies won.