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Lion
05-12-2007, 09:58 AM
Another controversial topic for the weekend blurb...Shock Jocks in America, have they gone too far? Most of ya are aware radio talk show host Don Imus got the axe after a 30-year run. Maybe more head-chopping needs to be done. This week on XM Satellite Radio shock jocks Opie and Anthony aired a segment which discussed raping Laura Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Queen Elizabeth. Because it aired on Satellite Radio, there are no Federal restrictions on what content may be used since it's a paid service. The problem is, this SMUT filters its way into mainstream America. I heard about it on Fox News this week, and of course the internet. On Friday Opie and Anthony did apologize for the statements made (SEE STORY (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271515,00.html)). Joking about raping The First Lady, the Secretary of State, and the Queen of England is NOT funny. Those who think it IS funny are very sick minded peeps. Freedom of speech is all fine and dandy, but with that right comes certain responsibility. In Opie and Anthony's case freedom of speech doesn't apply since only paid subscribers could hear their smut show. That's the argument subscribers to their smut show will give ya. Problem is, that segment of their show about rapping those women are widely available on the net. I know cause I listened to it. Sickest thing I've ever heard in all my born days, and they call it entertainment? :wtf:

sniperelite7
05-12-2007, 10:02 AM
Absolutely disgusting. Rape is something you don't joke about. They should be taken off the air for what they said even imprisoned or fined.:mad:

Cowafteru
05-12-2007, 11:16 AM
There is definitely some responsibility built in. Honestly tho, people enjoy hearing about if not necessarily listening to that sort of thing. Its pretty sick and sad, but its true. American's love some drama with a dash of controversy.

I don't think it is right to have the government establish laws about this sort of thing either. As consumers I really think that the only way we can fight back against this stuff is with our wallets.

hissingnewt
05-12-2007, 03:06 PM
As consumers I really think that the only way we can fight back against this stuff is with our wallets.

Wallets probably hurt depending on the material.:D

They shouldn't joke about that, though. And anybody who watches Carlos Mencia probably saw him talking about the "nappy-headed hos" statement. He had a few good points.

darkrei9n
05-12-2007, 05:55 PM
Speech is something you cannot stop. They didn't break laws. But they did do something very inappropriate. Although I do say. BURN THE WITCH!

Mighty BOB!
05-13-2007, 02:31 AM
Give 'em all the axe!

eLDiablo
05-13-2007, 09:04 AM
Give 'em all the axe!

Ja vol mien fuhrur!

HawkEye1102002
05-13-2007, 05:11 PM
Question, is it really freedom of speech?

In my oppinion, no, to me that seems a threat and a desire, I bet if it was broadcasted on regular radio, then the radio station would apologise, but would not sack the radio presenters, why, cos it is talk against right wing poloticians and against a monarch (which a number of the left oppose), now if it was talk against a minority or agaisnt left winggers, then they would be sacked.

This Imus guy got booted immedietly, why, cos he made remarks about a female basket ball team being "hoes" and all, fair enough - even though it is wierd that the music they listen to, the "rappers" rap about girls being "hoes 'n' bitches", but enough about that as it is going a bit off topic here.

Jokeing about rape is not funny to a lot of people who have been through the ordeal of this crime.
I admitt my humor is dark and twisted but I would never go that far as I know my limits.

So my answer, is this freedom of speech - No, it is a threat to three individuals and abuse of freedom of speech

darkrei9n
05-13-2007, 08:12 PM
Question, is it really freedom of speech?

In my oppinion, no, to me that seems a threat and a desire, I bet if it was broadcasted on regular radio, then the radio station would apologise, but would not sack the radio presenters, why, cos it is talk against right wing poloticians and against a monarch (which a number of the left oppose), now if it was talk against a minority or agaisnt left winggers, then they would be sacked.

This Imus guy got booted immedietly, why, cos he made remarks about a female basket ball team being "hoes" and all, fair enough - even though it is wierd that the music they listen to, the "rappers" rap about girls being "hoes 'n' bitches", but enough about that as it is going a bit off topic here.

Jokeing about rape is not funny to a lot of people who have been through the ordeal of this crime.
I admitt my humor is dark and twisted but I would never go that far as I know my limits.

So my answer, is this freedom of speech - No, it is a threat to three individuals and abuse of freedom of speech

Britian is not a monarchy. The parliaments is in charge but the Queen is used as a figurehead with no real power.

Wrecking Crew
05-13-2007, 08:45 PM
The Queen can disolve Parliament, I would call that power! All bills passed by Parliament have to be signed by the Queen. More power!

As for on air discussions in bad taste, the listeners are to blame if they continue to listen to crap like that. Remember, with all rights comes responsibilities.

Massacure
05-13-2007, 10:34 PM
The Queen can disolve Parliament, I would call that power! All bills passed by Parliament have to be signed by the Queen. More power!

As for on air discussions in bad taste, the listeners are to blame if they continue to listen to crap like that. Remember, with all rights comes responsibilities.

The Queen has power, but not as much in reality as in theory. The Queen can dissolve Parliament, but what would she gain from that? Her advisors are the various ministers of Parliament, and Parliament has the sole power of the purse strings.

Wrecking Crew
05-14-2007, 02:09 AM
Its not a matter of what she could gain, but rather it is a check on Parliament to avoid a particular parliament from making laws that are detrimental to democracy, or the common good. By having the power to dissolve parliament then the ministers can not make laws because they would become illegal. The Queen could then invite another person to become PM and instal another government.

Because of the serious repercussions, the monachy has seldom used these powers. But those powers are nevertheless very real.

Derek
05-14-2007, 08:38 AM
I would hardly call the ability for a hereditary ruler to disolve a democratically elected body "protecting democracy."

But really I think we all know that the Queen wouldn't actually execute any of her theoretical powers. Shes just a figurehead.

HawkEye1102002
05-14-2007, 08:38 AM
Britian is not a monarchy. The parliaments is in charge but the Queen is used as a figurehead with no real power.

For starters, Wrecking crew is absolutly right about the Queen, she can desolve pariment, secondally of all, whether the Queen is a monarch or not has nothing to do with the talk about rapeing Conda, Laura Bush and the Queen

starscream007
05-14-2007, 08:45 AM
I myself am a Sirius subscriber and yes your are gonna suspect that kind of stuff since the FCC cant touch it. I never like Opie and Anthony they always were tasteless IMO. Howard Stern seems to draw the line somewhere. Freedom of Speech is a powerful thing.

Demeuser
05-14-2007, 08:54 AM
There are absolute truths, but most of America has forgotten this. You might disagree, but then answer this question: "Under what circumstances or situation should rape be allowed?" If you can’t think of any, and no one in his/her right mind should be able to, then you agree that there are absolutes. With that said, joking around about rape isn’t funny…ever! I am not talking about denying anyone their 1st amendment rights or taking away freedom of speech. I am speaking of joking around about the horrendous crime of rape. If you think rape is funny, then ask yourself if you would want your mother, sister, or daughter raped. What sort of punishment should the offender get for raping one of your family members? The whole tolerance thing has gotten way out of hand. Tolerance is just a virtue for those who have no convictions. :(

eLDiablo
05-14-2007, 09:03 AM
I myself am a Sirius subscriber and yes your are gonna suspect that kind of stuff since the FCC cant touch it. I never like Opie and Anthony they always were tasteless IMO. Howard Stern seems to draw the line somewhere. Freedom of Speech is a powerful thing.

actually the difference is O& A are funny, all Stern does anymore is have strippers on the show and talk about how hot they are... which makes for awesome RADIO.

How stern still has a career i dont know but he lost his touch ages ago. With that said, joking around about rape isn’t funny…ever!

yes it is... its funny all the time.

The only time it isn't is when someone who has been raped is around, and its only not funny to them.

SgtRicko
05-14-2007, 09:27 AM
actually the difference is O& A are funny, all Stern does anymore is have strippers on the show and talk about how hot they are... which makes for awesome RADIO.

How stern still has a career i dont know but he lost his touch ages ago.

yes it is... its funny all the time.

The only time it isn't is when someone who has been raped is around, and its only not funny to them.

I would usually blast a person for thinking rape is funny, but I'll let this slide by and just simply say that I think you are wrong, and that I don't want to get any deeper into this line of debate due to the possibility of me starting a flame war.

eLDiablo
05-14-2007, 09:41 AM
I would usually blast a person for thinking rape is funny, but I'll let this slide by and just simply say that I think you are wrong,

And that would be the point. Humor is subjective.