Renegades multiplay unfair defences

[JestersC]

GDI gets an unfair defense advantage.
The AGT shoots turrets at you and can shoot 2 different things at once + the missile. It will weaken all the vehicles and kill the people that are rushing with them.
NOD:
NOD's obelisk has to charge up plus it can not take on more than one thing at a time. If you rushed the obelisk than only one thing would get destroyed if anything does. And the obelisk has A couple of blind spots where it will shoot miss or not even shoot at all.

[Zardac the Great]

That's funny...I was always thinking about how annoying it was that Nod got Oblisks AND Turrets, while GDI only had the one building.

GDI's defense might be better, but it's still only one building, and can be destroyed. Kill it, and it's over.

To take out Nod's defenses, you can kill the Oblisk, but the Turrets are still shooting you.

[JestersC]

True but the turrets can die very easily and they don't have a warning on when they are getting attacked.
It takes one mrls to shoot about 3 rounds of rockets to take one of them out.

[Gaucho8788]

That's funny...I was always thinking about how annoying it was that Nod got Oblisks AND Turrets, while GDI only had the one building.

GDI's defense might be better, but it's still only one building, and can be destroyed. Kill it, and it's over.

To take out Nod's defenses, you can kill the Oblisk, but the Turrets are still shooting you.

I understand your feelings on this, the only thing is, the gaurd tower is quite a pain to kill, especially since they have no vehicle that can shoot around corners aka the mrls, nods vehicles only shoot straight.

True but the turrets can die very easily and they don't have a warning on when they are getting attacked.
It takes one mrls to shoot about 3 rounds of rockets to take one of them out.

While this maybe true, it is still time consuming to take out three defensive structures and while the turrets may not be good against infantry, it can do some damadge to vehicles. Also it is quite noticeable when you see someone shooting six rocets at a turret, don't ya think?

[JestersC]

While this maybe true, it is still time consuming to take out three defensive structures and while the turrets may not be good against infantry, it can do some damadge to vehicles. Also it is quite noticeable when you see someone shooting six rocets at a turret, don't ya think?


True but people are 2 busy killing each other by the time they notice the mrls it will most likely be to late and most people don't want to heal it they want someone else 2 because they have there own game plan and it's time consuming to heal something a mrls is constantly attacking.
They will most likely get tired of it and say screw it and leave it for dead.

[Gaucho8788]

Well really if the team is good enough it doesn't matter if the obelisk is slightly worse than the AGT, because I've found NOD to win a lot of games instead of GDI especially with the highly armored Flame Tank. It just take a little bit of strat and cooperation between team mates to win.

[YuriRuler90]

Jesters, please use proper grammar.

Anyhow, it usually is easy to kill a Turret without anybody noticing. In some games I can usually get a Turret and a couple of wayward people with one MRLS.

[JestersC]

Yea my poing exactly and sorry for my gramer not that good in language.
But I also agree that the agt can be very easy to kill.
With a stank or a flame tank rush.

[Zancloufer27]

AGT has almost as many blind spots as a Obelisk. Also the turrets can run without power :p

[Gaucho8788]

AGT has almost as many blind spots as a Obelisk. Also the turrets can run without power :p

I never knew that. Thats pretty neat.

[Warbz17]

do people still play Renegade online? I would really like to join u if u do. =) let me know how?

[JestersC]

do people still play Renegade online? I would really like to join u if u do. =) let me know how?

I never knew that the turrents could run without power thats kewl.
Warbz17 Its not hard just go to multiplayer on the main menu and then go to westwood online or gamespy I perfer westwood and then click a server then click join game.

ps. servers I perfer would be the finfalls servers or the noobstories server. hope to see you on sometime.

[Gaucho8788]

It's not quite that simple. i have not figured out how to make new accounts for westwood, or if it is even supported anymore to make new accounts because the tab you click on at the logon screen that says creat new account takes you to a bad page. I'll try to research it more.

[YuriRuler90]

Just type in a name and password. If that name isn't taken yet, it'll create that account for you.

[Cylon Crusader]

I tried to do so but it says that the page cannot load or is invalid (bad page). I have tried numerous different passwords and account names without success. Any help would be great.

Back on topic though: assaulting GDI and Nod bases with defenses.

GDI:

Get an APC or 2 and fill them up with saboteurs and send them down the the main path to the GDI guard tower, if you can send one of them from the back. Remember that even though the guard tower is overpowered, it is still only one structure and 2 saboteurs using all of their C4 can easily destroy it.

Nod:

Again you can either try the APC rush or alternatively you can destroy the obelisk from afar using the MRLS starting with the turrets and going to the obelisk itself.

Ways to defend your base defenses:

GDI:

Always have anti infantry defense around as well as an engineer. If your enemy attacks from the out side, get the engineer inside and keep on repairing the guard tower, if your enemy tries the APC rush, have a good anti infantry guy inside with the engineer as well. A GDI officer or some one with a flame thrower or tiberium weapon is good for anti-infantry. Remember to keep a couple engineers around the tower as well as anti-infantry defense.

Nod:

Same thing, but you might want to also keep a couple anti vehicle guys around if the enemy uses MRLSs.

Again if you can help me out with the multiplayer login and stuff, that would be great.

[JestersC]

you guys are forgetting that on some servers there is to gt's with the agt.
so that rules out most you guys have said about the unfairness.
because if the obelisk has 2 turrets and the agt has 2 gt's that it is totally unfair because in my opinion the obelisk kinda sucks compared to the agt.

[Gaucho8788]

I tried to do so but it says that the page cannot load or is invalid (bad page). I have tried numerous different passwords and account names without success. Any help would be great.


No, you type a name into the name bar, don't click on the create new account tab. After you put a name in put a password into the password bar, (Note that it'll limit the length of your name and password automatically so even if you put in imsocool123, it'll only take up to 9 to 10 characters so it would take off the 3 and maybe the 2. Same goes for the password). Thats how you create a new online account for Renegade.

[kyle]

Back in my Renegade Online days it was always easier to take out an obelisk as GDI, but we where always under constant pressure from NOD (the map being Under) at the base entrance it was hard to get anything out.

But I agree, the AGT is overpowered, as is the MRLS. (hate seeing those missiles coming around corners :flame:)

[JestersC]

Back in my Renegade Online days it was always easier to take out an obelisk as GDI, but we where always under constant pressure from NOD (the map being Under) at the base entrance it was hard to get anything out.

But I agree, the AGT is overpowered, as is the MRLS. (hate seeing those missiles coming around corners :flame:)

Thats exactly what I was thinking when I posted this thread!

[kyle]

what we need is some one with maping skills to make two basic maps.

one where its just an Oblisk and an AGT. see who wins.

Second one with an oblisk w/ 2 turrets and an AGT. that would settle some things...

[JestersC]

(klex: Second one with an oblisk w/2 turrets and an AGT. that would settle some things...)

No it wouldn't because on some of the servers on West Wood online
The AGT has to gaurdtowers on its sides that also shoot.

[apple23]

what servers are you talking about? ive NEVER seen a guard tower accompanying an advanced gurad tower. I didn't even know they existed in Renegade.

And also, you can use the "quote" system by putting tags around the dialog and then putting [/quote] after it.

[YuriRuler90]

A lot of maps have Guard Towers defending the base, like the Ice map (can't remember the map, it's been too long).

[yurihomer]

glacier?

[YuriRuler90]

That'd probably be it.

[yurihomer]

can someone please do a step by step screenshot to show me how to get online. because i haven't touch the game for almost 1 year. :(

i actually want it more than sex right now:redface: on another thought, maybe not.:D

[apple23]

lawl. dont need pics. I can explain it easily right now.

1) Start the game
2) Select 'Multiplay Internet' from the main menu
3) Select 'Westwood Online' from the next menu
4) Select 'Advanced Game Listings' from the next menu
5) If prompted, enter your username and password. If you don't have an account or you don't remember your password make another by simply entering your desired username and password and (if the username hasn't already been taken) select the Enter/Sign In/Whatever button. (DO NOT press the create account button. It is unnecesary and probably still dosen't work)
6) Log in
7) Select a server from the list.
8) Press the 'Join Game' button
9) In the next menu press the 'Start' button
10) wait for it to load and start playing

Do I really need to use pictures when I have brainpower, or was it for your aid? :p
(No offence btw. That was totally a joke)

[yurihomer]

lawl. dont need pics. I can explain it easily right now.

1) Start the game
2) Select 'Multiplay Internet' from the main menu
3) Select 'Westwood Online' from the next menu
4) Select 'Advanced Game Listings' from the next menu
5) If prompted, enter your username and password. If you don't have an account or you don't remember your password make another by simply entering your desired username and password and (if the username hasn't already been taken) select the Enter/Sign In/Whatever button. (DO NOT press the create account button. It is unnecesary and probably still dosen't work)
6) Log in
7) Select a server from the list.
8) Press the 'Join Game' button
9) In the next menu press the 'Start' button
10) wait for it to load and start playing

Do I really need to use pictures when I have brainpower, or was it for your aid? :p
(No offence btw. That was totally a joke)
appearantly i only get option 1, 2 and 4 :(