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Cylon Crusader
06-09-2007, 02:58 PM
I need some help for one of the Nod missions in act 5, I think its the 3 or fourth (The one in which you have to capture GDI and scrin construction yards). I dont care about the secondary objectives I just want the mission done.I tried the IGN guide unsuccessfully though.Any help on this mission would be greatly appreciated.

Zardac the Great
06-10-2007, 12:16 AM
Oooh. This one killed me for the longest time.

I tried to build up a Mammoth Tank army, but GDI kept killing a Scrin Drone Platform, always with a single rocket squad, and I'd lose.

What I decided to try was to build Pitbulls and patrol the middle of the map, hoping to kill any GDI rocket squads I found. While I was doing this, I planned to build up a Predator force, and eventually, Mammoths.

Unfortunately, I don't know if that would have worked. That was the one game when GDI wasn't agressive. Both sides basically sat there and let me decimate them.

Of course, if you want the easy way out, you could just set that mission to easy. I almost did that a couple of times.

Daishi
06-10-2007, 12:26 AM
It's not hard to start this mission. Just make many Saboteurs, set your dudes to hold fire stance and send them to the GDI bases. Then hotkey like a devil and capture both CYs first and whatever unguarded treasures are in either base.

If GDI forces are on the move, you can just track them and keep a saboteur a good distance away. Then move in and take the vulnerable Drone platform when the Scrin are concentrating their efforts elsewhere, and send it right at your cloaked base.

anakha
06-10-2007, 12:37 AM
As Daishi said, saboteurs all the way. As long as you don't take any offensive action you can run saboteurs all the way up to the key buildings owned by GDI and Scrin. When they're all standing in place, enter planning mode, set the saboteurs to capture and click planning mode off. Auto win and you don't need to fire a shot. I tested this with a saved game in 1.05 and it still works.

Cylon Crusader
06-10-2007, 06:28 PM
Thanks guys those are good ideas but I have the game for the xbox 360 not the PC and therefore I cannot do most of those things you told me to do.

SgtRicko
06-10-2007, 11:30 PM
Thanks guys those are good ideas but I have the game for the xbox 360 not the PC and therefore I cannot do most of those things you told me to do.

Then pray that there are cheat codes that will one day be released, or maybe a GameShark something...:dead:

CO Valle
06-11-2007, 08:56 AM
As Daishi said, saboteurs all the way. As long as you don't take any offensive action you can run saboteurs all the way up to the key buildings owned by GDI and Scrin. ...

:dismay: ... How could I not think about that!, .... all those hours of frustration....

Cylon Crusader
06-13-2007, 08:14 AM
K but is there any way to gain more resources? After you capture a CY and it gets destroyed or you sell it, do you lose the mission? Any precise strategies to walk me through this dilema.

SgtRicko
06-13-2007, 08:49 AM
K but is there any way to gain more resources? After you capture a CY and it gets destroyed or you sell it, do you lose the mission? Any precise strategies to walk me through this dilema.

Resources really shouldn't be an issue there, seriously: by the time the Tib fields start running dry you seriously should have taken over the GDI entirely by then, which would grant you several extra fields to harvest.

And yes, selling and/or personally destroying your ConYard will result in a loss.

Cylon Crusader
06-19-2007, 07:28 AM
So if I go in with only saboteurs, which base should I go for first, GDI or Scrin (Scrin base is closer)? What buildings should I capture first?

Daishi
06-19-2007, 08:21 AM
I say GDI, only because I'm not sure Scrin actually lets you in their base without a fight...

Avapodnaught
06-19-2007, 12:12 PM
There is a script issue with the map, the only things that makes the opponents attack you is either you are
attacking them,
capturing a structure, (I don't know bout capturing the hovel though, but capturing it isn't your best option)
getting a unit of yours squished,

Thats why people suggest pulling in a lot of sabetours, and Im sure there must be a manual for 360 cnc3 that can help you with all the buttons and controls

Cylon Crusader
06-21-2007, 03:14 PM
I have CNC 3 for my xbox 360, not my PC.

Avapodnaught
06-22-2007, 03:51 PM
I have CNC 3 for my xbox 360, not my PC.
I've played on the 360, if you can't get engineers in easily I find swinging your commando and shadow teams around the back way of the main gdi base and capture the main key structures and build refineries in the nod base as soon as you can for cash (they should be able to fit in there...)
360 play is quite fun if you know how to micro manage well

sovietmisaki
06-25-2007, 06:34 PM
ah yes that mission, one that's really hard due to the fact that you have to time it just about right
:dead:

M2M
06-26-2007, 02:33 AM
@ ts:

see above posts if you want to know how to do this mission correctly :)

a bit of luck is required though

Avapodnaught
06-26-2007, 08:25 PM
a bit of luck is required though
Mainly because they might kill each other, but I don't say the mission is that difficult at all if you capture the gdi base and start building units

sovietmisaki
06-28-2007, 12:56 AM
hm.... ok, it's probably easier if you get your saboteurs going to capture the scrin structures and then right after that (and I mean get there quickly when your men are in position) capture the GDI structures cause the scrin can easily wipe out your saboteurs very very quickly...especially with those storm towers

Avapodnaught
06-28-2007, 01:14 AM
I'm not sure that is how it works, I do know that Gdi will make a voice message if you touch their stuff or capture the command centers, but scrin won't attack you unless you attack them or capture something of theirs
I wouldn't want a storm column destroying my command center after I captured it, because it does get destroyed...

M2M
06-28-2007, 04:50 AM
Im not sure that is how it works, I do know that Gdi will make a voice message if u touch their stuff or capture the command centers, but scrin won't attack u unless u attack them or capture something of theirs... I wouldn't want a storm column destroying my command center after I captured it, cuz it does get destroyed...

I just simply had the luck that both were in a stalemate...

SgtRicko
06-28-2007, 06:21 AM
The way I did it was I actually waited around until a couple of Tripods and Juggernauts died, then took their husks and raided the GDI sw base from the north while using the commando to bomb any nearby sentry towers. It wasn't perfectly executed (I lost a juggernaut to a guardian gun and missile squad due to poor micro, and a couple of saboteurs died cause of an APC), but I managed to take the base and win the mission nontheless without resorting to using the exploit.

sovietmisaki
06-29-2007, 12:40 AM
The way I did it was I actually waited around until a couple of Tripods and Juggernauts died, then took their husks and raided the GDI sw base from the north while using the commando to bomb any nearby sentry towers. It wasn't perfectly executed (I lost a juggernaut to a guardian gun and missile squad due to poor micro, and a couple of saboteurs died cause of an APC), but I managed to take the base and win the mission nontheless without resorting to using the exploit.
sgt. your a genius, nice strategy!...if only the rep thing wasn't messed up right now...

pietro
07-18-2007, 12:38 PM
i finished this one like in this walkthrough ( started a bit in the same way, and then improvised : only the beginning is a bit hard )

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6168146/p-27.html

Hellscream2007
08-11-2007, 12:25 PM
Same here, but the more I redo the mission, the further I get. Now I can capture some buildings on the west site most of the time and destroy any made units. Just with those Scrin i'm still having trouble. (when they decide to attack the base....wich is a bit to late to move on then, no?)

reignofevil
08-12-2007, 10:58 AM
I usually go scrin first, I have my commando not shooting unless I tell her to, and have her take out as many scrin int he inital fight as I can. After I just let GDI take out the defences and take over whatever the scrin have. After I build up some tripods and go hunting. But thats just me.

Chev
08-22-2007, 04:21 AM
This strat required a rather fast pace action.
If you don't move fast enough the northern (nortwest) GDI base will be distroyed.

1. move your troops to the west and cross the battlefield where GDI and scrin is fighting eachother, you don't have to let your shadow teams fly but it might be nice to have one scout ahead.
Ther's (rather small) GDI base there with 2 ramps.

2. Capture the MCV, Refinery, War Factory and a power plant (not sure how many engeneers you got)
3. build a few tanks distroy the AA guns
4. Build a barack Build a few engeneers
5. Build up a small army of Predators, rocket and millitant squads and move up north to the second GDI base.

While fighting (and sacrificing) your small army against the SCRIN attacking the northwest GDI base, quickly capture the MCV, pack it up and move it towards your main GDI base.

Now you can start building up your troops, and with a second tiberium field left to the you got plenty of cash.
Good luck!

After doing this make sure you have some AA and ground defences in your NOD base (where you first started!), the power plants and tech buildings give a nice bonus ability (shadow teams are great for scouting ahead).

Cylon Crusader
08-25-2007, 10:56 PM
Thanks guys, i used a combination of your strats and finally won not only this mission, but the nod campaign as well. I gto a couple shadow teams behind the main GDI base and took out about half of it like that, while at the same time capturing 2 juggernauts and a tripod, I then assaulted the GDI main bsa and got control of it, when i teched up, i built 10 mammies and sent them to both scrin bases, after elimintating the defenses, i captures the scrin drone platforms and sent them to the back of my nod base. I assaulted the final GDI base and won the mission by capturing the con yard. If you wait for some time, the both of the forces most of the time eliminate each others offensive capabilities. Thanks alot again guys, you have no idea how helpful it was.

Chev
08-27-2007, 02:27 AM
Gratz on that then :D now good luck on the SCRIN campain! :color1:

Delta-4
08-27-2007, 04:11 AM
Even though you already beat Operation Stiletto, I'd still like to share a bit of information I discovered a while back.

I seem to remember Shadow Teams being allowed to take out Watchtowers and other structures without setting off the alarms. Might be the Commando who passes, too, but I'm not sure, though.
This might've been corrected with one of the patches and it might not work for the Xbox 360 version, but it helped me a great deal. Hope it helps anyone else who gets stuck on OpStil.

Cylon Crusader
08-27-2007, 12:34 PM
Gratz on that then :D now good luck on the SCRIN campain! :color1:

Thanks alot man, but I still need to beat the GDI campiagn, I am on the mission in Berne.

CO Valle
08-27-2007, 02:21 PM
Ahhh, good old Berne, I love that mission, Juggernauts all the way:cool:.

SgtRicko
09-01-2007, 06:31 AM
Don't worry dude, once you beat Chapter four for the GDI, it actually gets pretty easy! Just be warned though: once you complete that mission with the giant crater in the center, the game's gonna become spam-crazy, especially on the hard difficulty! I once had to clear out a base that was overloaded with tripods, PACs, and shock troops, only to find out that Nod went and built an even BIGGER force mainly of scorps!:dead:

GDI EVA SCTCU
04-01-2008, 01:09 PM
i know this is a bt late but i own the 360 version too. you can decide the who will be more agressive in the beginning. outside your base a mammoth tank and a tripod will be fighting if you help the if the tripod wins it ends up full rank and decimates GDI, if the mammoth tank wins Gdi will decimate the first scrin base and eventually win. if you help gdi by bombing the tripod you can just follow gdi with a sabatuor and capture the stuff after GDI takes out the defenses, but watch out after you capture the second platform some of there units will fire on it or you but they won't aggressivly attack you

wkw427
04-02-2008, 12:41 PM
IU have 360 version, beat it, and am at this one on PC, havn't tried it for a while.


I massed shadows I think, bombed the guard towers in the south gdi bace, and captured it. Send aid to the north gdi bace ASAP or you are screwed. Then mass mammys in BOTH baces, abou8t 10 in each, then steamroll scrin