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Zombie
12-20-2007, 07:29 PM
This labour goverment continually pisses me off everyday, everyone who votes for labour is a damned fool and deserves to die slowly and painfully, but this is a subject especially close to my heart so i felt compelled to write about. The goverment is talking about banning samurai swords, this is on top of the gun ban and the various knife amnesties we have had to endure over here, the sword ban is one that strikes me particullarly hard as i love my swords, i have 3.. a katana, a wakizashi and a tanto blade.. i love my swords, its a passion of mine.

Now this ban pisses me off, it pisses me off so much it brings my blood to a boil and makes me hate people, it pisses me off so much i actually want to go out and kill just to spite the goverment.

But i dont.

You know why i dont? becuase like the majority of people, i have self control... sure i think these things, i bet everyone reading this has at one point in the their life said they will kill someone, it dosn't mean they will, i say this ban makes me want to go out and kill, it dosn't mean i will.. becuase i know the difference between what i say and what i do in real life, like all decent folk, now my swords alone dont kill.. just like guns dont kill, knives dont kill and bombs dont kill.. they are inaminate objects, they have no will and no malice towards humanity, there is only one deadly weapon on this planet that kills millions everyday and that is humans themselves.. i have had my swords for years and they have never harmed anyone, they just sit there on top of my warbdrobe, happilly in their scabbard's, until some impressed visitor see's them and takes one down to have a closer look at it.. they have never never killed, they have never maimed, they never injured, cut or even caused a boo-boo to anyone at all, and never will... why? becuase they are not capable of it by themselves and i am a sane and reasonable person, good combination.

this is my argument against this ban, NO INAMINATE OBJECT IS CAPABLE OF HURTING SOMEONE WITHOUT A PERSON BEHIND IT, USING IT.

As for the slim minority of people who do use these tools to inflict pain on others, isnt that why we have police?

A great man once said that by electing your goverment, you are showing them trust.. and in return the goverment must show its people trust.. swords are beautiful things which the majority of us can have and enjoy without hurting others, the goverment really needs to learn to trust its people and not be a paranoid over-bearing-nanny state... if i really really wanted to i could go out tomorrow and kill someone with a corkscrew, or a screwdriver, or a toothbrush or a jar of honey... are we to ban all these things too?

Apologies if any of you know someone who was hurt or killed by sword, but i am saying what i beleive here.. it wasn't the sword doing it.. it was the psychopath behind it, and there is no need to ban these beautiful and ancient creations becuase the minority of people misuse them.

Thanks for reading my rant, i know i dont post here alot anymore but i wanted to say this to as many people as possible.

ItalianPenguin
12-20-2007, 07:39 PM
I'm glad someone from the UK understands that these tools(guns included) don't kill by themselves, people need to use them in that way.

To the majority though, that doesn't mater. It's all in a growing trend of not holding people accountable for their actions and trying to baby everyone. "It's the music, it's the video games, it's the fact that these swords/guns exist."

It'll probably be passed, I'm sorry for your loss. Swords are very beautiful objects.

Derek
12-20-2007, 07:56 PM
So are they afraid of someone going on a murderous rampage with a samurai sword now? And I thought the knife bans were retarded...

ItalianPenguin
12-20-2007, 07:57 PM
So are they afraid of someone going on a murderous rampage with a samurai sword now? And I thought the knife bans were retarded...
Well duh, don't you play video games? I bet they have a ban on all video games with swords in them in the works also!

Trevorrex
12-20-2007, 09:52 PM
How would you kill someone with a jar of honey? And i'll be concerned if you can actually answer that.

Yes, this latest ban is simply another case of a few nutcases ruining it for the vast majority. There have been sword attacks in Melbourne, though there was no mention of banning them, despite our high Moral Crusader population.

hissingnewt
12-20-2007, 10:20 PM
How would you kill someone with a jar of honey? And i'll be concerned if you can actually answer that.


Break the jar.

If you try hard enough, almost anything could be a weapon. You can throw books at people to hurt them. Some weapon bans are smart (like the no guns in Washington D.C., that's asking for problems by a person who didn't think long enough before acting), but this one doesn't seem like it will do anything at all to stop violence. Swords just aren't as good for going on a killing spree as a a gun, because people can run and a sword isn't going to make sure they can't run fast enough. Plus, the attacker will get tired of swinging and running, so they can't keep that up as well as with a gun.

Avapodnaught
12-20-2007, 10:34 PM
They just are concerned what people know are weapons Trevorrex, like you didn't know that a jar of honey could go right down the throat all at once well :shifty:
And breaking it just for the use of the glass... Or just hitting it on someone's head hard enough...
I'm glad that we have some protection but some things are just crazy, I would think that if you had a room of packed people and a get away car :shifty:
But otherwise... no wait...

People are dangerous, what they have is what they'll use, you can't stop anything from being a weapon but some things you just know are weapons more right off
A small scrap of paper might not do anything but a full page...

What I am trying to get at is that you just need to know who is dangerous, and how to stop them, and how to make sure that if they have done wrong that it never happens again and stuff like that...

Edit: Plastic... I suppose but I wouldn't want to live in a world without my dangerous Jars

Trevorrex
12-20-2007, 10:58 PM
In my defence, breaking the jar would not have occured to me since most of our honey comes in plastic jars and squeeze bottles.
And battering someone to death with a jar of honey would only work if the person was either:

A) Completely taken by surprise providing your first blow knocked them out - which is unlikely.

B) Catatonic or something to start with and therefore unable to defend themselves.

I don't know why I'm arguing really. Honey murder tactics are not my area of expertise.

hissingnewt
12-21-2007, 12:13 AM
Oh, well I guess plastic is a safer material (except for when you're microwaving some food).

Oh, but as a side note, something was done about mentally ill people and obtaining guns a couple of weeks ago, because of the Virginia Tech incident, so some steps are being taken here to limit the gun access of possibly dangerous people.

NuclearDreams
12-21-2007, 02:44 AM
In my defence, breaking the jar would not have occured to me since most of our honey comes in plastic jars and squeeze bottles.
And battering someone to death with a jar of honey would only work if the person was either:
A) Completely taken by surprise providing your first blow knocked them out - which is unlikely.
B) Catatonic or something to start with and therefore unable to defend themselves.
I don't know why I'm arguing really. Honey murder tactics are not my area of expertise.


If you hold Zombie's Katana sword to his throat and force him to eat the whole jar, destroying what is left of his pancreas resulting in deep coma and death...cause he's diabetic. :p


...they should ban jars of honey.

Gaucho8788
12-21-2007, 03:13 AM
I know exactly how you feel zombie. I love swords and collect them to. It would infuriate me if the US government tried to pull a ban like that.

ItalianPenguin
12-21-2007, 04:24 PM
I know exactly how you feel zombie. I love swords and collect them to. It would infuriate me if the US government tried to pull a ban like that.
Won't ever happen. First, the NRA would be all over their ass because they know they'd be next. Secondly, Americans as a whole don't take lightly to their privileges being taken away. Save for the Patriot Act, don't know wtf happened there. Although that could be explained by 9/11.

Zombie
12-21-2007, 05:09 PM
Maybe i should move to the USA then.

Statalyzer
12-21-2007, 05:47 PM
Oh, but as a side note, something was done about mentally ill people and obtaining guns a couple of weeks ago, because of the Virginia Tech incident, so some steps are being taken here to limit the gun access of possibly dangerous people.

The VTech situation might have been avoided if there was just one student/professor with a gun in the building. Instead everyone had to just hide and hope.

Gaucho8788
12-22-2007, 02:11 AM
Won't ever happen. First, the NRA would be all over their ass because they know they'd be next. Secondly, Americans as a whole don't take lightly to their privileges being taken away. Save for the Patriot Act, don't know wtf happened there. Although that could be explained by 9/11.

Thats very true.

Zancloufer27
12-22-2007, 08:58 AM
So they are banning Swords as they can hurt people? People who kill others with Guns/Swords/TNT, etc, are not exactally the kind of people who follow laws. Even if it's illegal, that just means law abiding citizens will have one less thing to defend them selves with. In Canada, most gun crimes are committed with un-registered guns. It doesn't matter if it's against the law, if your going to kill someone breaking a few weapon control laws in the act won't really matter to them.

Thumper
12-22-2007, 04:17 PM
in california they actually banned shoelaces because they were afraid kids would strangle eachother or try to hang themselves. they also banned nail clippers. oh and pencils, because they are basically wooden spears.

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