How to kill Seekers?

[SurvivorX]

OK the title makes it seem quite a bit worse than it actually is...but lol

I've been practicing in Skirmish mode, (not nearly good enough to hold my own in online play so I'm trying to get to the point where I can at least beat a Hard computer) as Nod and vs Scrin I always seem to be able to beat whatever they throw at me - they mass up Disintegrators/Buzzers, I use Scorpions with Dozer Blades, or Venoms, or Flame Tanks (flame tanks seem to get the best results, if done properly). They send an air fleet, or a mob of Shock Troopers, I send a squadron of laser Venoms. They send Tripods, I send Venoms and tanks (needless to say, Venoms are imo the answer to all problems.)

But, ironically, I have a seriously hard time when they start massing up Seekers and Gun Walkers. I just can't seem to get a unit group that works on them. A few here and there I can handle, but a whole bunch will take down my Venoms in a hurry, and outnumber my Scorpions, so I can't take them all down before they whittle my force down to nothing. Rocket troops work ok, but the Gun Walkers bring those guys down in a hurry. The Seekers kill my tanks, the Walkers kill my infantry, and they both kill my precious Venoms.

So, what's a good counter for Seekers? I know Avatars are the ultimate anti-vehicle unit, but it seems that I shouldn't have to rely on a Tier 3 unit to be able to handle Tier 1s. Is there anything Tier 1 or Tier 2 that can handle them?

[Daishi]

Scorpions + blackhand should be your main units until T3.

At the same time, bikes and fanatics for support/harassment.

Maybe raiders for anti-swarm support? Sometimes I get lucky and smash all their black hands with a swarm, idk if raiders are really necessary.

[Derek]

Pure tank spam, maybe with a few rocket soldiers, should work fine.

[GDI EVA SCTCU]

laser turrets actually kind of help against anything other than GDI armor, spam laser turrets and tanks and venoms

[JBV3737]

Pure tank spam, maybe with a few rocket soldiers, should work fine.

yep rocket guys to take care of the seekers, and tanks to take care of the gun walkers, maybe a few venoms for any inf he attacks with also.

[Cylon Crusader]

Rocket troopers along with fully upgraded scorpions, attack bikes and buggies work good too, especially with their EMP attack, it requires a bit of micromanagement, but the results turn out to be pretty good.

[Daishi]

EMP buggies vs. Seeker spam? Chronologically impossible.

But you're right about bikes, they practically counter seekers if you make enough and take care to micro them around. Not sure about in KW though, the expansion came out after this thread started. :p

[Derek]

EMP buggies vs. Seeker spam? Chronologically impossible.

But you're right about bikes, they practically counter seekers if you make enough and take care to micro them around. Not sure about in KW though, the expansion came out after this thread started. :p
Lol. No. Not even in vCNC3.

[Avapodnaught]

They just run around once and one seeker dies if you have enough of them
seekers take too long to fire all of their payload and have less ranged

[Derek]

Doesn't matter. No anti-vehicle vehicle loses to bikes, they have no health. One seeker can easily take down two bikes, maybe three, bikes, which cost more than the Seeker. I mean sure, ten bikes will beat one seeker, but thats a stupid scenario. Bikes are for harrassment and anti-air only.

[Avapodnaught]

I didn't say that now did I
What I said is that if you keep letting them use their damaging attack once every run they will eventually start tearing apart one and hopefully get away with just one dead and... one seeker dead, as long as they aren't able to line them up appropriately you should have them, but even so I wouldn't use them to attack the seekers forever :)

[Daishi]

Doesn't matter. No anti-vehicle vehicle loses to bikes, they have no health. One seeker can easily take down two bikes, maybe three, bikes, which cost more than the Seeker. I mean sure, ten bikes will beat one seeker, but thats a stupid scenario. Bikes are for harrassment and anti-air only.
I've seen Nod vs. Scrin replays that flanking bikes take down hordes of seekers. Maybe they're not pro games, but it's doable if the pros complain about it. I even tried it myself, it works as long as the seekers aren't in formation.

[GDI EVA SCTCU]

riflemen can kill bikes, buzzers could probably kill bikes. rocket infantry spam works just lay down a refinery in the way if there are ~12 seekers or less they will take forever to kill it and you could have 10 rocket guys by the time they kill it, or use fanatics, gunwalkers suck against fanatics

[Avapodnaught]

gunwalkers suck against fanatics
no they don't...

[apple23]

Gun walkers pwn fanatics hard... that's what makes a good micro'd walker / seeker spam so lethal to NOD, especially in early game.

[Derek]

You know what else owns fanatics hard? Running them over. Seriously. They suck right now.

[truefeel]

scorpions in front of rocket soldiers work well for me. In KW, you could also try to use as MoK the EMP from the Awakened, giving you the oppertunity to do some free damage. If I'm correct, dozer blades improve scorpion armour also. BH might be even more fitting, due all the upgrades you get for the confessor cabal and the rocket soldiers. I'm not sure how it's against human players, but the hard AI can't beat massed confessors+rockets with all the upgrades.Massed gun walkers might be a counter for it, although with particle beams, confessors can turn out a good blow before getting killed themselves.

[GLQ_Seph]

Well once a seeker destroyed a 2-3 mammies cos i wasn't watching and put them on no fire stance to stop them from giving away the position... i didn't notice i was being attacked as i was dealing with their airforce.

I wasn't happy. Being my vengfull self i launche the ion cannon on it...


I hope this post helps =]



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[Side2]

Well, occasioanlly AIs are dumb enough to be lured (don't use against humans) on the few tiems when I play as Nod agaisnt my fav Scrin I send a few venosm with lasers to irritate the Seek/gunwalker squad. Venoms may get hurt, but I send them home quickly. Due to the AI's calculated success probabilty against my aircraft, they actually chase my faster venoms, in which I lure them into a pocket of 10 or more Stealth tanks. It ends quickly.

[jerry32j]

Get a nuke :devil: