Better have your navy ready

[Commander Dave]

:evil: wow what a trailer and naval warfare is just wild so many weapons on all sides the ruskies with tesla boats ,and bull frogs that shoot enemy troops out ,and then the allies with light destoyers and century bombers and the empire i dont know much about but thier psunami tank that can mess youup bad it is going to fast and furious no time to be slow :flame:cant wait Commander Dave out!:wave:

[Gaucho8788]

It seems like it is going to be a good game. Though I will say there is one thing about RA2 that I did hate and that was the squid and dolphin. Just the addition of animals was stupid to me. I hope it's not in RA3 though it won't ruin it for me if they are.

[Zardac the Great]

Well, the real life navy already uses dolphins to help with mine sweeping. Why not use them?

After all, it's not like this is a serious game like RA1... :(

[Gaucho8788]

I would like it to be a more serious game like RA1. Also, on the note of animals, the attack dogs I understood. I never really used them but their use was more understandable. Squids, wtf?! I mean the only thing that made that plausible was the Yuri mind control thing. Dolphins, their only use was really to combat the squids. The thing you said though about the dolphin use in real life I can also understand. Like I said though, it won't ruin it for me, I just won't use them.

[Statalyzer]

Dolphins, their only use was really to combat the squids.

Dolphins had a lot more uses than that. They could often win a naval war all by themselves.

Dolphins and Squids are definitely less dumb than bullfrogs that shoot out troops though.

[Gaucho8788]

I never really used them other than to combat squids. And about the bullfrogs, I mean what is this, the circus.

[Derek]

Dolphins dominated all Naval units. A few could completely prevent the Soviets from doing anything on the seas. So if you only used them to counter squids, then you weren't using them enough.

[SiDeWiNdEr]

Dolphins dominated all Naval units. A few could completely prevent the Soviets from doing anything on the seas. So if you only used them to counter squids, then you weren't using them enough.
Agreed. I quite often used Dolphins to over-run any incoming naval attacks.

They had the supprise element and once turned elite I thought they were awesome. Swamped dreadnaughts and watching other players whine was always fun.

[Zardac the Great]

My dolphins always died quickly...and sank my own ships.


In a way, I'm disapointed with the Akula. Attack submarines have always been the basic ship in the Soviet navy. Allied naval operations tended to revolve around finding and killing submarines.

Now, it would appear the Tesla boat is the basic Soviet Ship, and the Akula is a high tech vessel. Not horrible, just a bit sad.

[Gaucho8788]

My dolphins always died quickly...and sank my own ships.

Thats usually what happened to me.

[JestersC]

I actually use the dolphins in RA2
But I agree that the squids and bullfrogs are completely unrealistic.

[Daishi]

Dolphins dominated all Naval units. A few could completely prevent the Soviets from doing anything on the seas. So if you only used them to counter squids, then you weren't using them enough.

You forgot the submarine. Don't feel bad, though, I didn't think massed subs beat massed dolphins until I tried it with Dr. Feel.

[Statalyzer]

My dolphins always died quickly...and sank my own ships.

Well, of course they die quickly, they aren't heavily armored and only cost $500. But this also means you can have a lot of them, and they make the enemy die quickly also. As for sinking your own ships, it's simple - don't put your own ships in between the dolphins and the enemy.

I didn't think massed subs beat massed dolphins until I tried it with Dr. Feel.

If you didn't think that, then you were right. Something like 3 subs vs 6 dolphins (subs have a good chance to win) is not the same battle at all as 20 subs vs 40 dolphins. Having all 20 subs be able to fire is tough, but it's almost a guarantee that every single dolphin will be firing. Plus, in a 3v6 or so, each dolphin is only damaging one sub. In a 20v40, many dolphins will be damaging three or four subs at once. And then the dolphins have the additional advantage of the near-instantaneous naval yard kill.

[Zardac the Great]

Heh heh. My ships weren't between the dolphins and the Reds. I tried a flanking manuever. I had Destroyers on one side, and dolphins on the other side. The Sonar pulse went through the Soviet ships and laid waste to mine.

[Kibax]

I used the dolphins in the missions and thats about it, i r newb.

[Gaucho8788]

i r newb.

I really wouldn't say that, because even in the missions I didn't use them, unless I absolutely had to.

[Daishi]

If you didn't think that, then you were right. Something like 3 subs vs 6 dolphins (subs have a good chance to win) is not the same battle at all as 20 subs vs 40 dolphins. Having all 20 subs be able to fire is tough, but it's almost a guarantee that every single dolphin will be firing. Plus, in a 3v6 or so, each dolphin is only damaging one sub. In a 20v40, many dolphins will be damaging three or four subs at once. And then the dolphins have the additional advantage of the near-instantaneous naval yard kill.

We tested in the much more realistic setting of 10 subs in formation vs 20 dolphins. And keep in mind the soviet player will be massing subs some time before the allied player starts massing dolphins.

We also discovered that destroyers can beat a mix of subs and flak ships if they stay out of range and take attacks of opportunity at the seascorpions. It turned out to be a micro-fest that Generals USA vs China matches would've been proud of, if it weren't for the occasional bugging out of the Ospreys... XD

[Zardac the Great]

Yeah.

And having them land on the ground.

Once the Destroyer comes close to a sub, it takes off, but by the time it reaches the battle either the Destroyer or the Submarine is dead.

It doesn't help to blow up the Osprey, because the new one immediately flies to the same place the old one was and takes its place in the Useless unit of the Year contest.

[thetechieotaku]

I usually don't use naval units early in the battle. :D I usually build 'em after I capture an Allied or Soviet CY... :p

[Daishi]

Sorry about your loss streak :(

[Gaucho8788]

I usually don't use naval units early in the battle. :D I usually build 'em after I capture an Allied or Soviet CY... :p You must play against some real noobs.

[thetechieotaku]

You must play against some real noobs.

Well not noobs, but I play against a casual gamer. We don't really enjoy Naval Battle :dunce:, we just really prefer land battles, but with the advent of RA3, we need to change our strategy

[Zardac the Great]

I always have loved naval combat. I'm really glad it's coming to the forefront.

[Gaucho8788]

Same here. This is probably what really makes me want to get RA3. :D