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Geordy
07-11-2008, 08:26 AM
Yesterday I saw a Tank Gen's artillery destroying a vChina's untouched internet center. Clearly, this is impossible, isnt it?

Derek
07-11-2008, 09:02 AM
umm, no, you just saw it. :|

Level 3 Artillery is very powerful.

Geordy
07-11-2008, 06:26 PM
In my experience the internet center is one of the sturdiest buildings in the game. It withstands even a SW attack. So I suspect some nasty trick behind this.

CookieMonster
07-11-2008, 06:28 PM
It might only survive a Nuclear Blast, but a Scud Storm, and Particle Cannon will destroy it.

Daishi
07-11-2008, 07:16 PM
Derek and CM are right. Lvl 3 A-10 will kill it even, if I recall correctly.

Fenring
07-11-2008, 08:44 PM
Not that I recall, unless you're playing a mod. The Internet Center always seems to survives level 3 A10 strikes and artillery barrage AND all superweapons. Maybe it's just me though...

Derek
07-11-2008, 10:49 PM
Nope. Demo/Gamma Scud Storm and Level 3 Artillery can take out Internet Centers and Superweapons.

Geordy
07-12-2008, 04:12 AM
There seems to exist some level of uncertainty about how sturdy the internet center is. In my personal experience, A-10 or artillery are not capable of destroying it on itself. Particle Cannon or the Nuclear Weapon neither.
I guess when I saw it there was some other form of damage enhancing going on. Maybe the opponent managed to drop landmines on it who were then exploding together with the artillery? What about an EMP blast on the building - does it weaken the structure to some point?

SgtRicko
07-12-2008, 07:15 AM
From what I remember, the Internet Center could survive up to five Aurora bomber strikes, and unless you focused the particle cannon on it entirely, it would still survive. Never have I seen an A-10 strike or artillery take it out in one strike, ever.

nyarlathotep
07-12-2008, 08:24 AM
But what if the guy mined his internet-center himself? wouldn't that add to the collateral damage?

Derek
07-12-2008, 08:43 AM
No, mines do not damage structures. But I'm telling you, you're seriously underestimating level 3 artillery, its the most powerful support power in the game.

Geordy
07-12-2008, 09:25 AM
Is it possible to check this out sometimes? I just began playin online watchin a replay every now and then, joining a 2 vs 2 and the like so my pool of buddies are limited. :D
Personally, Id say the Nuke Gen's carpet bombing might run for the most powerful support power too. ;)

Derek
07-12-2008, 10:28 AM
Nuke Carpet Bomber does the same damage as the regular Carpet Bomb, it just leaves radiation behind.

Geordy
07-12-2008, 10:48 AM
Guys, I checked this vs. AI vChina, I killed its internet center with artillery 3. :eek: I remember times when this was impossible. A change introduced by the recent patch maybe?

apple23
07-12-2008, 02:12 PM
the community patch may have changed the strength of the internet center, but from what I remember (and i sometimes play on a 1.00 comp) not even a nuke could destroy the internet center in one blast, not to mention an artillery strike.

Hang on, I'll try it on my 1.00, and see if it is any different on 1.04, or 1,06

Daishi
07-12-2008, 06:04 PM
Well between 1.04 and 1.06 they doubled the Internet Center's HP, so in 1.06 the lvl 3 arty barrage most likely won't work.

C4
07-12-2008, 06:38 PM
After 1.05, the internet center had its HP doubled from 1.04. Now not even 2 nukes can kill it.

BTW, someone asked if the EMP blast weakens the building? No, it just switchs it off. Air units will die instantly though (even if not by taking damage).
EMP blast doesn't do any damage. Don't confuse it with the explosion from the GLA anthrax bomb. It does some damage on blasting, not only by the toxin left...;)

apple23
07-12-2008, 06:46 PM
I just tested it. in 1.04 the internet center would be destroyed by a level 3 artillery, but it would still take 2 nukes to destroy it.

in 1.06 it would take 2 artillery barrages or 3 nukes to kill it.

Derek
07-12-2008, 09:40 PM
I told you guys. You should listen to me, I've been playing this game for over four years :p

And don't measure in Nukes, Scud Storms are more powerful than Nukes. Why, then, is the Nuke timer longer than the Scud Storm timer? No ****ing clue, but Nukes suck.

All of the following can take down a Super Weapon or Internet Center:
Demo Scud Storm
Gamma Scud Storm
Artillery level 3
Demo Rebel Ambush level 3

C4
07-13-2008, 07:22 PM
And don't measure in Nukes, Scud Storms are more powerful than Nukes.
That's why measuring in nukes seem better. Smaller measure means a more precise one.;)


Why, then, is the Nuke timer longer than the Scud Storm timer? No ****ing clue, but Nukes suck.
1.05e and 1.06 corrected it. Nuke>>5min Scudstorm>>6min.
The why has no answer except maybe for another EA genius with severe problems with Math. (the only Math that counts to them is $)

JihadSquad
03-08-2010, 09:41 PM
The only thing I saw that could 1 hit IC is particle cannon... and you can't attack anything else with it in the meantime. However, you do get to knock out a $2500 building and potentially 8 x $650 units.