The Dark Knight (may contain spoilers)

[Rolk]

I went and saw this last night with a few friends.

And wow.

Heath Ledger absolutley murdered the part. He was phenominal. I often forgot that the movie was about Batman and not the Joker.

Action scenes were great, Batman was brutal, Joker was fantastically portrayed with his personality and lack of mercy.

Was so wicked.

[ItalianPenguin]

I don't get to see it until Saturday. I hate you.

[Avapodnaught]

Rolk stop spoiling us with how great an actor is, you might make us want to see it :scared:, wait, that's not right :shifty:

[KrasnyOktyabr]

Got my tickets for Friday night, can't ****ing wait, haven't looked so forward to a movie in a long time.

Not since Freddy Vs. Jason was announced anyways.

[meteoradreams]

I went to Nashville last Friday night with a bunch of my friends, we all thought The Dark Night was opening up then. (No, I don't know how we all made that gaffe, I think it happened when I mentioned that I thought it was opeing up Friday night and no one knew that it wasn't)

But anyways, got there, found out it wasn't opening up for another week, and the only thing that wasn't sold out at the time was Hellboy 2.

**** sucked.

[ItalianPenguin]

Yeah Hellboy 2 really wasn't good at all. Got really lovey dovey at times and just seemed to jump in and out of action in a really weird fashion.

[meteoradreams]

Johan Krauss was the best part of Hellboy 2. The rest was pretty cheesy, with plot holes aplenty, although there were a couple of laughs.

Back to The Dark Knight, however. I'm generally not much of a Batman fan. I've seen the movies, but Batman isn't something I usually will pull out to watch. However, I REALLY want to see The Dark Knight.

[ItalianPenguin]

Before they made Begins i never really liked the batman series. Always too cartoony IMO.

[Toxic10x]

I saw a midnight showing in Imax last night, and I must say it was among the greatest movie-going experiences I've ever had. I've been finding it difficult to encapsulate the movie in just a few sentences because it has so much going for it.

My general impression is, first, that it was simply fantastic. It's well written, well directed, and has excellent camera work and editing like all of Nolan's films. The plot charged right along, and moved always in surprising directions. It was full of twists, highs, lows, shocks... You never knew where it was heading next. It was also very powerful emotionally and very stimulating to the senses. It grabs you by the heart, and shakes vigorously for two and a half hours.
All the performances are great, and as you've no-doubt been hearing, Ledger is unbelievable as the Joker. His portrayal was the most disturbing thing I've seen in a movie theater in a long time-- and all within a PG-13 framework. You'll be thinking about the movie long after you leave the theater (days I'm sure) and mostly what will be haunting you is him.
Furthermore, this movie cuts straight to the core of what makes Batman great. The central themes and characters of the mythos are all given incredible life and dimension, and played in a way that even the most demanding bat-fan will love- all while fitting in beautifully within the Nolan's Gotham Universe: Harvey Dent's rise and fall, the Joker's anarchist derangement, the struggle to bring back a city on the brink, and the true dark nature of the title character.
Furthermore, the more I consider it the more amazed I am by how well it ties in with the first movie thematically. You're often asking yourself if maybe Ras was right.
Overall, as some of my friends have been saying, you really don't know what you're getting yourself into when you step into that theater. Prepare for something much darker, much more intense, and much more powerful than you would have expected.


....also, you guys didn't like Hell Boy II eh? I'm surprised. A few of my friends have seen it, and they really enjoyed it. It has an 87% on Rotten Tomatoes too, which is exceptional for this genre.

[KrasnyOktyabr]

Just came back from the theater. My god, The Dark Knight was just amazing, hands down the best movie I've seen in a long time.

I was never a big fan of Ledger, but his portrayal of Joker was just- hell it was just amazing.

[SgtRicko]

The movie was excellent, no doubting that. Only complaint was that the movie jumped from one scene to another like crazy, sort of like how anime dialog does at times, and that the movie came to an end. That is all.

Oh yeah, and I think I have a new quote as of now...

"Let me show you a magic trick... I'll make this pencil disappear." :evil:

[Toxic10x]

The pencil thing was freaking great :D He's a true entertainer.

[The Llama King]

I saw it yesterday. I need to see it again. It was beautiful. I Didn't even think I was watching actors, Caine, Ledger, Bale, hell even Eckhart made me feel they were all really who they were in the movie! They did a fantastic job of bringing the Joker to a real world realistic view. And Harvey, brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

Batman isn't a superhero! hell no! hes a friggin gaurdian, a belief, justice!

[ItalianPenguin]

I went to see it last night, and I must say it's easily the best movie I've seen in at least two years. What an excellent performance by Ledger.

Does anyone else think the addition of a certain person opened up the way for a Robin? Think about it.

I'm going to see it again today with my friend. We're going to the 1:30 showing to miss the later crowd.

[ArmoredBear]

I went to see it last night, and I must say it's easily the best movie I've seen in at least two years. What an excellent performance by Ledger.

Does anyone else think the addition of a certain person opened up the way for a Robin? Think about it.

I'm going to see it again today with my friend. We're going to the 1:30 showing to miss the later crowd.
In regards to what you said in the spoiler, it's not happening, ever. They've said it already I think.
And yes, the movie was one of the best I've seen in a long time. And Heath Ledger was excellent, really set the tone of the rest of the movie with his "magic trick" in his 1st major scene. It's a movie that would be awesome even if it wasn't based on a popular comic series, and it definitely raised the bar for everyone else.

[Annihlator :D]

That movie was amazing. Spectaculer. Award winner for sure.

[ItalianPenguin]

In regards to what you said in the spoiler, it's not happening, ever. They've said it already I think.
I already searched for that, so unless you have a link, I'll continue to think otherwise.

And yes, the movie was one of the best I've seen in a long time. And Heath Ledger was excellent, really set the tone of the rest of the movie with his "magic trick" in his 1st major scene. It's a movie that would be awesome even if it wasn't based on a popular comic series, and it definitely raised the bar for everyone else.
That's the best magic trick I've ever seen.

[Nod Fanatic]

Going to see it tonight. I'm giddy with anticipation.

[Doh004]

Just got back from watching it... and I'm simply amazed.

Stunning, breathtaking, menacing, twisted, ridiculous, and masterful are just some words that I'd use to describe Ledger's portrayl of The Joker. I also felt Eckhart did an incredible job as well. I truly "believed in Dent".

[YuriRuler90]

Heehee.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2504/1216453840438ef3.gif

[ItalianPenguin]

I've been looking all over for that YR. Thank you!

[The Llama King]

Wow that is becoming the most popular part!

Saw it again today. I was still excited to see it. It rocked.

BTW IP, who?

[ItalianPenguin]

TLK, the only other person who knows his true identity.

Every person in the movies who knows his true identity has some role in helping him. Reese, the guy who was going to blow his cover, is the only person so far without a purpose that knows his true identity. Now that he knows it, I don't think they can just throw him away and never mention him again.

[Nod Fanatic]

TLK, the only other person who knows his true identity.

Every person in the movies who knows his true identity has some role in helping him. Reese, the guy who was going to blow his cover, is the only person so far without a purpose that knows his true identity. Now that he knows it, I don't think they can just throw him away and never mention him again.
I think that the look on Reeses face when he realized that Batman had saved him speaks of future happenings. I'm wondering if he might become the Robin, and moreso, how the hell Robin could fit in the gritty, realistic world Dark Knight portrays.

[ninjadog6]

Doesn't Reese seem a little old to play the part of Robin? That and the fact that Robin's real name is Tim Drake.

[ItalianPenguin]

I think that the look on Reeses face when he realized that Batman had saved him speaks of future happenings. I'm wondering if he might become the Robin, and moreso, how the hell Robin could fit in the gritty, realistic world Dark Knight portrays.
That's a good question. Considering these movies are a departure from other versions, I don't see why they couldn't make Robin a more gritty character though.
Doesn't Reese seem a little old to play the part of Robin? That and the fact that Robin's real name is Tim Drake.
Actually, Robin has had various names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_(comics)

Drake is the third and current one.

Maybe he'll get another.

[Doh004]

They've stated multiple times that they won't have a Robin in any of the future movies, if they even do more. Also, I felt that the look that Bruce and Reese exchanged kinda closed the deal on Reese keeping his mouth shut for good. I think it was understood that Reese was just going to have to drop it and shut his mouth forever about it and disappear.

Maybe I'm the only one who got that out of the scene. We'll see.

Seriously folks, if you haven't seen the movie yet, go friggin see it. I'm tired of typing in spoilers :p

[Nod Fanatic]

Maybe Reese'll be a villain?

[ItalianPenguin]

They've stated multiple times that they won't have a Robin in any of the future movies, if they even do more. Also, I felt that the look that Bruce and Reese exchanged kinda closed the deal on Reese keeping his mouth shut for good. I think it was understood that Reese was just going to have to drop it and shut his mouth forever about it and disappear.
Maybe I'm the only one who got that out of the scene. We'll see.
Seriously folks, if you haven't seen the movie yet, go friggin see it. I'm tired of typing in spoilers :p

Yes, because they're just going to all of a sudden drop the largest cash cow in movie weekend history. :rolleyes:

Maybe Reese'll be a villain?

Indeed, that is very possible. I never even thought of that. That would be interesting.

[Nod Fanatic]

[spoiler]Indeed, that is very possible. I never even thought of that. That would be interesting.
I wonder which one he could be? He doesn't seem the villainy type, but neither did Harvey before he became Two-Face

[Toxic10x]

Mr. Reese.

Mysteries.

Any guesses now?

[SgtRicko]

I say Catwoman. The guy was a total pussy, so why not?:p

[Rolk]

Mr. Reese.

Mysteries.

Any guesses now?

Wasn't his name Edward Nygma?

[SgtRicko]

Wasn't his name Edward Nygma?

Although I doubt it, they changed Raz Al Ghul's identity, so why not the Riddler?

[Toxic10x]

As far as I'm aware, yes, his name is traditionally Edward Nygma, but I wouldn't put it past them to go for another play-on-words of the same style. After all, the Joker has been given many different backgrounds/names in different Batman incarnations-- why not Riddler as well?

[ItalianPenguin]

As a side note from the current discussion, this movie had convinced me I need to buy a Blu-ray player. Watching this in SDTV is unacceptable. Hopefully MS will released one for the 360 before TDK comes out on Blu-ray. If not, look like it's the Thanksgiving Black Friday Sale for me.

[SgtRicko]

That, my dear Italian friend, is why I've finally decided to buy the PS3: not only do I get to play MGS4, but I also get to see Blu-Ray movies as well. Sure, it might not have Super Smash Bros: Brawl or the large library of the 360, but I believe that the quality will make up for it.

[SirSnake]

Well its not out yet in the UK (technically) but I got to see an advance preview cause I have some friends that work in the cinema.


Awesome film, not a lot to add to whats been said before and I totally called the ginger as the new robbin mcbobbin at the time!


Was disappointed two-face didnt stay in it and died, was hoping he'd come back (seeing as how they cant bring back the joker and all, heath was awesome, shame hes popped his clogs, although my mate reckons its a sick publicity stunt!)

If they have a riddler they should get jim carry to do it again; not in the same style at all, he would have to be completely different than before, but I still think carey could pull off the darker character required for these current sequence of films.

Seemingly was-her-face wasn't in it cause she asked for too much money, bet she's kicking herself now, its a great film!

The ending was a little down-key, with none of the set-up for another film that the first one had. Although the ending fits brilliantly with the film and portrayel as a whole, it didnt quite seem as good as the first.

Still good stuff, will get it on blu-ray whenever it comes out!

[ItalianPenguin]

That, my dear Italian friend, is why I've finally decided to buy the PS3: not only do I get to play MGS4, but I also get to see Blu-Ray movies as well. Sure, it might not have Super Smash Bros: Brawl or the large library of the 360, but I believe that the quality will make up for it.
Save yourself 200 USD and get the 200 USD Sony Blu-ray player on Amazon. Not to mention by the time TDK comes out they'll be even cheaper.

[The Llama King]

Whats her face didn't want more money, she was filming somethign else or busy or who gives a **** good riddance.

I'm glad Two Face dies, it really made his character seem plausible. Considering they didn't go with the multiple personality story, they had to make him fit into a villain profile, and he did, he killed who he needed to and he was done.

Reese should probably end up giving info to a villain, like being forced to or being so grudgingly unhappy that he squeals to a villain or something. I don't see him being a very good villain himself though..

and please. No robin.

[Nod Fanatic]

Whats her face didn't want more money, she was filming somethign else or busy or who gives a **** good riddance.

1. Original actress was better at acting
2. Original actress was hotter

[Toxic10x]

Yeah Reese may well play into the "police must hunt batman" plot of the next film.

[The Llama King]

1. Original actress was better at acting
2. Original actress was hotter


3. Original actress is married to a Scientologist nutbag.


And Yea Toxic... I wonder if there is any word from Nolan, he has to be getting ready for the next one..

[SirSnake]

I thought she asked for too much money, but I guess being busy makes more sense!

Honestly I dont think theres anyway they can work Robin into the films and get him to fit the current style, hes just too ghey.


Besides then you'd have Batman being forced to help Robin out everytime he messes something up.

What he should do is just kill Reese before he causes anymore trouble!

[Statalyzer]

I'm glad Two Face dies, it really made his character seem plausible. Considering they didn't go with the multiple personality story, they had to make him fit into a villain profile, and he did, he killed who he needed to and he was done.

And this is what spoiler tags are for.

Honestly I dont think theres anyway they can work Robin into the films and get him to fit the current style, hes just too ghey.

Begins improved on Batman's character and the storyline so much over all the other movies, I don't see why they can't improve on Robin as well.

Whats her face didn't want more money, she was filming somethin g else or busy or who gives a **** good riddance.

When I saw the first preview for The Dark Knight, I thought "Wow, Katie Holmes sure got into one hell of a car accident."

[Doh004]

And this is what spoiler tags are for.
Seriously, we don't need the spoiler tags for this thread anymore. If you haven't seen the movie yet, go friggin see it already. Also, if you haven't seen it yet, don't go in to a thread that talks about the movie.

PS, the you isn't directed towards you Stat, more along the lines of anyone viewing the thread.

[The Llama King]

yea sorry stat but the title of this thread said may contain spoilers. I didn't want to disappoint.. :p

Batman was always cool though. Robin has some stigma attached, it would be harder to make him enjoyable. Besides, Robin was only cool as Nightwing. Otherwise he's just a boy in a acrobat suit.

[Statalyzer]

ea sorry stat but the title of this thread said may contain spoilers. I didn't want to disappoint..

I realized there was a chance someone would leave off the tags at some point in the thread...but people had been using them a lot so I figured it was worth the risk to read more general info about it, since I rarely watch movies in theaters since it usually isn't worth it to me vs seeing it at home.

Seriously, we don't need the spoiler tags for this thread anymore. If you haven't seen the movie yet, go friggin see it already.

I'll see the movie when I want to see it and have a free evening and several friends who want to see it that same evening. If that doesn't line up with your expectations, sorry.

Also, if you haven't seen it yet, don't go in to a thread that talks about the movie.

If that was the case, we wouldn't need spoiler tags at all. They are there so that people who haven't seen it can get a general idea about it without having plot points revealed.

[Doh004]

If that doesn't line up with your expectations, sorry.
You'll always live up to my expectations Stat :angel:

:p

Don't mind me, I'm just being lazy.

[Thumper]

just saw the movie. they NEEDED katie holmes. also it got pretty convoluded and redundant towards the end. it dragged on for too long. with the joker being caught, then escaped, then caught then escaped then caught again. dont get me wrong, it was a great movie... but i think they spent too much time with the joker and not enough time with two face.

and they didnt really give a origin of joker, and ledger died, so there is that whole mess.

too bad, i never liked ledger until the joker. and now there is no more of him. i think he did a better job than Jack Nicholson, but that movie had a entire different feel.

the overal movie was good but i think with how good this movie did, and was destined to do, they coulda spent the time to fix all of my knitpicks. i didnt list them all.

[ItalianPenguin]

just saw the movie. they NEEDED katie holmes.
Um, no. Anyone could of played that part but eye candy would of been nice. Need would suggest the movie depended on it.
also it got pretty convoluded and redundant towards the end. it dragged on for too long. with the joker being caught, then escaped, then caught then escaped then caught again. dont get me wrong, it was a great movie... but i think they spent too much time with the joker and not enough time with two face.
and they didnt really give a origin of joker, and ledger died, so there is that whole mess.
Because no one else could ever play the joker again. Besides, now that ledger died it seems like a good idea they didn't go into Two-face more. Now they can actually branch off into another story because of the death of ledger.

Also, too much time on joker? If you saw Batman Begins you knew 2 years ago this movie was about Joker....

[apple23]

I saw the movie a few days ago. I has to piss like a racehorse through the entire movie but i didn't go to the bathroom because i didn't want to miss a second. it was 2 and a half hours of intense, dark, and gritty awesomeness.

Who else thinks the opening scene with the guys robbing the bank was great? It really set the tone of the story in my opinion, and I loved how when the manager pulled out his shotgun the shots shook the entire theatre.

And yeah, I know the movie is almost all about the Joker, but I would have liked if they did a little more with Two-Face.

With the Joker and Two-Face dead, I don't really see much more story they can develop in the Batman storyline. It really seemed like this was the final blow in the series, and it was a fine movie indeed.

Oh, and also, did anyone else find it an interesting twist that the guy (sorry I can't remember his name) that got shot in place of the mayor came back later? I thoguht it was a very interesting plot twist. Also quite shocking when Batman freaked out on the joker in the Jail compound.

[Doh004]

and they didnt really give a origin of joker, and ledger died, so there is that whole mess.

No one knows of the actual origin of the Joker. In all of the comics, there's never been a clear cut story of what happened to him and why he's so bat**** insane. In fact, the movie makes a point of illustrating how mysterious his background truly is. The Joker makes a point of it to tell his story multiple times, yet they were different each time. So in actuality, he negated both of those stories as they were just fabricated lies.

[Toxic10x]

Just wanted to make it clear to everyone that Nolan has NOT yet agreed to do another film. He's said that he put everything he had into this one, so he may decided to just walk from the franchise unless he's really compelled to stay on. Ledger's death may well interfere if Nolan had planned to use him in part 3, but nobody knows if that's the case.

Due to the enormous success of the movie, there's little doubt Warner Bros will make another, it's all an issue of whether it's another Nolan Bros masterpiece, or something... else.

All the actors are contractually obligated to do another if asked.

[Thumper]

maybe a little too much drinking with my last post. but i meant, how hard could it have been to get katie holmes, to keep the continuity?

and yeah im sure they could get someone else to play the joker, but... i really like continuity. and ledger did a good job.

[Statalyzer]

All I gotta say now is that I hope they were smart enough to not use that retarded line "Hey kid, ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?"

[ItalianPenguin]

maybe a little too much drinking with my last post. but i meant, how hard could it have been to get katie holmes, to keep the continuity?
Actually, impossible. Her hubby Tom Cruise specifically told her that she was not allowed to participate in any superhero movies. Of course like an idiot she listens to every word he says.

and yeah im sure they could get someone else to play the joker, but... i really like continuity. and ledger did a good job.
Ledger did an excellent job. Easily the star of the movie. Sadly though there will most likely need to be a replacement sometime in the future.

All I gotta say now is that I hope they were smart enough to not use that retarded line "Hey kid, ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?"
They didn't, you can rest easy.

[The Llama King]

They could have extended the movie for more Two Face and I wouldn't have minded. But I never felt there was too much joker....

I don't see why people thought Katie should have starred. Her chemestry was awful opposite Bale. More like freinds than a romantic interest.

It's funny how many people disliked Ledger but now want to see more of him. I thought he was pretty good at playing completely different characters in his movies..

[ItalianPenguin]

Sorry, but The Patriot(didn't like it), Brokeback Mountain, and A Knight's Tale aren't exactly my kind of movies.....

[Avapodnaught]

Damn... only gone for five days and on this forum this movie gets a lot of news... for a slow forum
I really want to watch this movie on the big screen if I get a chance

[SunnyInc.]

Actually, impossible. Her hubby Tom Cruise specifically told her that she was not allowed to participate in any superhero movies. Of course like an idiot she listens to every word he says.

Tommy probably slaps her around every now and then just to let her know whose boss.

:p

[ItalianPenguin]

I assume he does. Tommy would be a bitch like that.

[The Llama King]

Sorry, but The Patriot(didn't like it), Brokeback Mountain, and A Knight's Tale aren't exactly my kind of movies.....

Lords of Dogtown he was good in. He was good in Brothers Grimm, but the movie was kinda off.

I assume he does. Tommy would be a bitch like that.

He's just cleansing her of her crimes. And the aliens.

[ItalianPenguin]

Lords of Dogtown he was good in. He was good in Brothers Grimm, but the movie was kinda off.
Never saw either. I was going to see Brothers Grimm, but I heard it was pretty bad.

He's just cleansing her of her crimes. And the aliens.
I bet she didn't clean his shoes before he jumped on Oprah's couch either.

[The Llama King]

Never saw either. I was going to see Brothers Grimm, but I heard it was pretty bad.


I bet she didn't clean his shoes before he jumped on Oprah's couch either.

He's better in Dog town.

:lol: I can picture all the couches in the Cruise residence with dirty footprnts.. :lol:

[brookie]

I saw the movie last night. It was awesome! I wonder why the Joker always had a different story for the scars on his face?

[Derek]

To show that hes a psychopathic liar.

[SunnyInc.]

To show that hes a psychopathic liar.

I think it makes him that much spookier too because having a story behind the origins of the joker probably wouldn't do his character justice.

[Derek]

Yes, that too. Mysterious origins can do a lot for a character (Kane).

[brookie]

Wow that is becoming the most popular part!

Saw it again today. I was still excited to see it. It rocked.

BTW IP, who?
I was just on youtube and I mostly saw the scene where joker crashes the fundriser party.

[Desolator12]

Saw it today. I have to say Ledger did well with the part. I still prefer the laughable maniac that was Nicholson (In which I kinda saw in Ledger near the beginning where the Joker 'Made the Pencil Disappear') to the crazy psychopath maniac that was Ledger, but they're two different portrayals.

[VaultDweller]

I finally got to see it tonight. Fantastic! A little long for me, but amazing.