No Disk required to play but limited installs

[starscream007]

Its good to see that they are trying to shy away from constantly putting in your disk to play the game but apparently your only limited to three installs.


http://pc.ign.com/articles/908/908755p1.html

[wkw427]

I'm for it.

Becides, the game can't prevent you form installing it on a computer that does't have internet, can it?

Only 3 computers can go online. The limit doesn't apply to non-internet comps

[apple23]

I'm all for not needing a CD, and having 5 installs per CD is more than enough for me.

I don't think it can possibly prevent you from installing the program onto a computer, unless there is some program to write onto the disk saying how many install you have carried out.

It may do what previous titles did, where it prevented you from going online if your serial matched that of another registered user, but you will obviously be allowed 5 people on your network (or possibly even from other networks) to be on simultaneously, or it would kind of take the point out of the entire change.

[Bouncing Ball]

If I buy a game, I want to own it, not rent it! I prefer to use the cd actually..

[Daishi]

Screw EA.

[apple23]

I'm pretty sure that it means you can only have 5 copies of the game registered online on a single CD key, I don't think they are saying you can only install 5 times per CD and its done.

So in essence, if what I say is true (I don't know for sure) you would still own the game, you just wouldn't need the CD and would be able to have ALOT more installs on the same CD key than in any previous CNC title.

[pipinowns]

Limited Installs?

Wow that's probably the worst news I've ever heard. Honestly I might not buy Red Alert 3 because of this.

It's going to be a said day when downloading the game gives you more features then actually purchasing it. EA seems to be making there games worse and worse and making downloading there games more and more appealing.

[hearthemvoices]

Wait- I thought that you are limited to five installs on five PCs.

However, if you were to uninstall RA3 on one of the PCs, you'll be given back that installation. Is that right?

[thetechieotaku]

WHAT?!! I will be limited to 3 installs? If RA3 is only available to the ******* winblows platform, then I will not get a copy. It is not safe to get a copy because with the winblows platform, you may reformat it for how many times. If it is also available for the Mac and I have a Mac, it is safe to get one. Thank you EA for providing another reason for me not to buy a copy of your new game.

[Bouncing Ball]

I'm pretty sure that it means you can only have 5 copies of the game registered online on a single CD key, I don't think they are saying you can only install 5 times per CD and its done.
That would mean less protection since ever. strange..


is only available to the ******* winblows platform, then I will not get a copy. It is not safe to get a copy because with the winblows platform, you may reformat it for how many times. If it is also available for the Mac and I have a Mac, it is safe to get one.
If I were a mac fan, I would be ashamed of you..

[pipinowns]

WHAT?!! I will be limited to 3 installs? If RA3 is only available to the ******* winblows platform, then I will not get a copy. It is not safe to get a copy because with the winblows platform, you may reformat it for how many times. If it is also available for the Mac and I have a Mac, it is safe to get one. Thank you EA for providing another reason for me not to buy a copy of your new game.

This is just stupid.

[truefeel]

Look: I'm not behind EA at all, but this system is a good one. You are limited to 5 installs with online capabilities; you can spread them over 3 compies, which is IMO highly unlikely you will need more. 80% to 90% of all the people who buy this game will install it only on one computer. On top of that, if you ever needed a 6th or more install, you can contact EA for more.

I don't see any people who would install it more then 5 times. With the current *****ty support EA is given, I give the game 2 years maximum, 3 to 4 if an expansion comes out.

[Ivan_Moscavich]

I actualy put the CD in with all my games regardless of whether it is needed or not.
Just an old habit, and i don't intend to stop doing it.

[pipinowns]

I actualy put the CD in with all my games regardless of whether it is needed or not.
Just an old habit, and i don't intend to stop doing it.

Yeah me too.

[QUAD6]

I've played C&C most days for the last 13 years and now I may give up if EA uses Spores DDRM for Red Alert 3. It just offends me that they put so many conditions on something I buy, turning it into a rental rather than a outright purchase. And scanning my system's software is spying on me.:mad:
I feel bad that it's come to this :(...EALA RTS team has been putting out great games :wave: and I'll miss them if this DDRM goes on. And EA is ruining fine games in a vain attempt to....what, stop P2P sharing? With Spore that's been a disaster...this great game is rated one star on Amazon.com because of DDRM and sales have been curtailed. :dunce:
---My Spore Review---
Great fun game but may be my last EA purchase because of DDRM! Dumb DRM...Spore's draconian copy protection...it not only counts installations, but changes to your hardware ! Upgrade a system component (memory, CPU, vid card) and you are out an installation. The way the restrictions are enforced would be described as malware if it wasn't a big name company behind it. Without any notice, it installs software that checks to see what programs are running (you cannot run a virtual CD program and then Spore, even if you have shut down the virtual CD program). This code hides from all the normal ways of listing and shutting down processes, and it's not automatically uninstalled if you uninstall the game, and if you use the instructions given out to uninstall SecuROM, it only partially uninstalls...the reinstalls itself on the next reboot. This should be illegal hacking...maybe it is!!!:mad::mad::mad:

[wkw427]

I'd say it is

[apple23]

If what you say is true, that's DRM gone way, way too far. Hacking a person's computer in that way IS illegal, even if it is backed by EA. Unofficial installation of any programs separate from the game are illegal without express permission from the user.

[C4]

I never realized the f****** need of this CD issue anyway. If there's already a serial code which needs to be unique online and it is what certificates your purchase, what's the need of having a CD swinging and rotting on your CD drive? Look at Blizzard; latest patches to War3 and Starcraft made them no-CD. Pll will still need its serial to go to B-Net, so what's the deal? The solution passes more by making the official servers be appealing/less-buggy and providing solid support.

I actualy put the CD in with all my games regardless of whether it is needed or not.
Just an old habit, and i don't intend to stop doing it.
Yeah me too.
Geniuses.
I've played C&C most days for the last 13 years and now I may give up if EA uses Spores DDRM for Red Alert 3. It just offends me that they put so many conditions on something I buy, turning it into a rental rather than a outright purchase. And scanning my system's software is spying on me.:mad:
I feel bad that it's come to this :(...EALA RTS team has been putting out great games :wave: and I'll miss them if this DDRM goes on. And EA is ruining fine games in a vain attempt to....what, stop P2P sharing? With Spore that's been a disaster...this great game is rated one star on Amazon.com because of DDRM and sales have been curtailed. :dunce:
---My Spore Review---
Great fun game but may be my last EA purchase because of DDRM! Dumb DRM...Spore's draconian copy protection...it not only counts installations, but changes to your hardware ! Upgrade a system component (memory, CPU, vid card) and you are out an installation. The way the restrictions are enforced would be described as malware if it wasn't a big name company behind it. Without any notice, it installs software that checks to see what programs are running (you cannot run a virtual CD program and then Spore, even if you have shut down the virtual CD program). This code hides from all the normal ways of listing and shutting down processes, and it's not automatically uninstalled if you uninstall the game, and if you use the instructions given out to uninstall SecuROM, it only partially uninstalls...the reinstalls itself on the next reboot. This should be illegal hacking...maybe it is!!!:mad::mad::mad:
According to your statement, this is an outrageous policy. Thx to point it out. I've never realized they would go that far. Those guys are nuts. They invest more time thinking and improving new ways of copy-protection (money, money...:gnarly:) than actually improving their games. Oh yes, and we all know their magnificent support!!...

[ItalianPenguin]

If only I could use a keyboard and mouse on the 360 for RTS games, I'd never buy another PC game again. Ever.

[apple23]

Yeah... I know that software Piracy and DRM are big issues, but it has gone way, way too far. When it gets to the point that it negatively affects a legit buyer in such a major way as them being limited to 5 installs per CD, it is just going way too far, it is a bit oppressive.

[wkw427]

From what I hear, Securom is malware that monitors what programs you have installed..


If RA3 has securom, it is not safe. Google to see the badness yourself.

[Coldwar05]

*cough* sorry but this is a beta right o.o why would they put a beta on a cd if its not even 100% finished
thats the only reason why u dont need a cd i surpised no1 has thought of that o.o *cough* (sorry but i wasnt gonna post this but i guess i might have to)

is every1 forgetting (to my knowolodge that betas are never on a cd?)
I havent seen 1 (i am 15 so i cant prove this 100% all the way)

P.S i would love for some1 to prove me wrong on this :D

[wkw427]

Everyone is talking about the finished game...

[apple23]

*cough* sorry but this is a beta right o.o why would they put a beta on a cd if its not even 100% finished
thats the only reason why u dont need a cd i surpised no1 has thought of that o.o *cough* (sorry but i wasnt gonna post this but i guess i might have to)

is every1 forgetting (to my knowolodge that betas are never on a cd?)
I havent seen 1 (i am 15 so i cant prove this 100% all the way)

P.S i would love for some1 to prove me wrong on this :D


*cough* we aren't talking about the BETA. We are talking about the DRM on the final game... pay attention before you try to insult us like that. *cough*

[McSpivey]

I have been a loyal fan and player of anything Command & Conquer since it's beginning, but I think with the DRM drama, that I will forego purchasing this game ( and anything else EA publishes that includes it )

I think a Boycott of EA is in order.:flame:

[Coldwar05]

*cough* we aren't talking about the BETA. We are talking about the DRM on the final game... pay attention before you try to insult us like that. *cough*

.... ok look i didnt see this if it is posted... sorry i must have not noticed it or i am not looking at something that i have read right


but still sorry apple xD

(back then i didnt know a lot on the game sorry for butting in before readign the thread down 100%)

[thetechieotaku]

Companies think that piracy would decrease their profit. Companies SHOULD be happy if someone pirates their game. That would mean that their product is recognised and popular. Recognised and popular means more chance that the consumers would buy the product.

[Derek]

Companies think that piracy would decrease their profit. Companies SHOULD be happy if someone pirates their game. That would mean that their product is recognised and popular. Recognised and popular means more chance that the consumers would buy the product.
The logic here is so horribly wrong I'm not even going to go into it.

[pipinowns]

I have been a loyal fan and player of anything Command & Conquer since it's beginning, but I think with the DRM drama, that I will forego purchasing this game ( and anything else EA publishes that includes it )

I think a Boycott of EA is in order.:flame:

I'm sure EA will freak when they discover "McSpivey" hasn't bought there newest game.

[apple23]

Companies think that piracy would decrease their profit. Companies SHOULD be happy if someone pirates their game. That would mean that their product is recognised and popular. Recognised and popular means more chance that the consumers would buy the product.

Piracy decreases profit, because for every pirate, not only is that one less person to buy the game, but he is more than likely to encourage his friends to pirate. Piracy happens to virtually any game that was even worth half the price it was sold for (because they get it for free, they don't care if it sucks), so it dosen't really mean it is recongized and popular. And the more people who recognize that they can pirate the game, the more people who will.

[Black Hand]

I don't think it means you can install the game only a limited number of times without using the CD. If you format your HD 10 times from the time you get the game? Nah. I think it will mean you don't need the game in the drive to prevent it to be damaged. And anyway piracy would occur anyway so why spend time to make protections which are eventually bypassed.
I like this idea as I try to use no cd exes as most times as I can to avoid damages to my precious disks. (The cost alot!!!)

[jo_2]

Well, tell you what, I prefer to have to put up with having the CD inside the drive than to have EA feed me rootkits and apps which partially take over my machine.