Mirage Tanks

[Zardac the Great]

Greetings.

So...what do ya'll think of Mirage Tanks?

What do ya'll think needs to change?

[apple23]

I think they are fine as-is.. Nothing with them really needs changing.

I like the tank in general though, if that is what you are asking.

[Statalyzer]

They might need a bit of tweaking if you wanted to balance all the Soviet sides b/c currently you badly need Desos as Soviets to not get owned by mass Mirages in late game, but mostly they're an inventive tank idea without getting too odd.

[Derek]

They might need a bit of tweaking if you wanted to balance all the Soviet sides b/c currently you badly need Desos as Soviets to not get owned by mass Mirages in late game, but mostly they're an inventive tank idea without getting too odd.
...You realize we're talking about RA3, right?

Mirage Tanks suck. You're better off going Guardians + Athenas. Carpet bombing with Century Bombers is fun too. In general though the Allies have the weakest T3 (the best T2 though, so try to hit them hard early).

[Daishi]

Due to connection problems I'm out of the beta, :( but I figure the Mirage Tank shouldn't be a powerful tank (the most powerful in RA2): it should be a support unit this time around, good for flanking and ambushing the enemy during heated battles but not likely to win a stand-up tank match without the help of a group of Guardians.

Any change that would make it better at playing that role, I support.

[apple23]

yeah, Mirage tanks are more of a support ambush kind of unit, and they play really well if they are in a defensive position or of the enemy isn't paying attention. No, they aren't a good assault unit, but even in RA2, you couldn't attack a base with mirages alone (if you had a prism tank, you had the battle in a heartbeat :p)

[nyarlathotep]

Damn, those bastards at ea have changed their website, now you get automatically to ea mobile and I CAN'T SEE *****!!!

Does anyone know if the old site still exists or if you should have FF to see their new site properly? (Yes, I'm a dedicated Opera user)

[Ivan_Moscavich]

There is something that really needs to be changed, now, I'm a die hard soviet player and almost feel sorry for some allied players.

The mirage tanks fail camo. I can't count the times I've seen that white van on the beach or in the middle of a forest. If The van is not in a parking lot, it's a mirage tank.

And trees in the middle of the road, or on sand? Seriousy, you'd have to be stupid not to notice that.

Even the rock is some times suspicious.


And if you look on the minimap radar, you can see a discolored dot, just like you could on RA2, so you can see where the tank is anyways.

If you can't succussfully hide it, I say pitch the entire idea, because they're no use for a camofluaged tank that can be easily picked out.

[Coldwar05]

umm question... isnt Einstein (how ever u spell his name) dead? before the tank was made? i havent gone through all of the story line in the RA1.

but i do believe that the tank was built in RA2 which already enstin is dead. due to sovits goign back in time. Which means allies would have a much harder time making it with some bugs.... BUT! do remeber it is a beta not the real thing so dont over react now over react when it does the same thing in the real game.

but hey i just telling u what i think the answer to this :D

thanks for the correction :)

[Statalyzer]

You're right - going back in time to remove Einstein would mean no Chronosphere, Mirage Tank, Prism Tank, Prism Tower, or Weather Storm in RA2 and no equivalent weapons in RA3 either.

But we can hardly expect EA to realize that gaping plothole, can we?

[apple23]

Well apparently, someone else invented prism technology, I'm sure EA will just say someone else invented the mirage tank.

And Mirage tanks should disguise themselves according to thier environment, as Ivan said. If civilian vehicles are nearby, disguise as a civilian vehicle. If there are trees nearby, turn into a tree, if none of the above, simply turn into a rock.

That would make the Mirage tank quite a bit more useful.

[SgtRicko]

Or even better, give the player the option to choose what it can turn into by having them select what they want to copy from the environment. Simple!:)

[Vindicare]

EA apparently did not forget about Einstien....an early interview stated Einstiens assistant completed his original plans.

[Cylon Crusader]

Or even better, give the player the option to choose what it can turn into by having them select what they want to copy from the environment. Simple!:)

That a brilliant idea, kind of what you can make the spy select the infantry unit it wants to look like, the mirage can select what king of structure/ game world object it wants to look like.

[apple23]

Or even better, give the player the option to choose what it can turn into by having them select what they want to copy from the environment. Simple!:)

I'm sure that would be much easier to code than my idea, and it still works.

Only problem there is, how do you get the rock? I have never seen that rock as a terrain object on any of the maps...

[Zardac the Great]

I've always heard that trees/rocks/etc aren't considered objects in the SAGE engine...

[nyarlathotep]

But it isn't the same engine anymore then at the time of generals, so they might have changed that...

[ein1017]

maybe they could have it as a list of things to camo as. you know, you click it and it brings up a list of things or something (sounds silly I know)

[Gaucho8788]

Not really, that would make it better. Having a list of things to camo as would probably be easier to IMO.

[apple23]

I've always heard that trees/rocks/etc aren't considered objects in the SAGE engine...


Actually they are props, which is a fancy way of saying an insignificant object.

Trees (and benches, now =P) can even be ran over. That would not be possible if trees weren't considered objects. It would be a simple matter to make a tree targetable for that one ability (That depends on how they origionally coded the trees, though)


Not really, that would make it better. Having a list of things to camo as would probably be easier to IMO.


I think it would be a bit harder to click on the mirage tank and select what to disguise it as than to simply click on whatever terrain prop you want to disguise it as. It removes one step from the process and you get to do it all with the battle screen in the foreground.

[Zardac the Great]

Okay. Cool. I approve of this.

[yurihomer]

There is something that really needs to be changed, now, I'm a die hard soviet player and almost feel sorry for some allied players.

The mirage tanks fail camo. I can't count the times I've seen that white van on the beach or in the middle of a forest. If The van is not in a parking lot, it's a mirage tank.

And trees in the middle of the road, or on sand? Seriousy, you'd have to be stupid not to notice that.

Even the rock is some times suspicious.


And if you look on the minimap radar, you can see a discolored dot, just like you could on RA2, so you can see where the tank is anyways.

If you can't succussfully hide it, I say pitch the entire idea, because they're no use for a camofluaged tank that can be easily picked out.

roflmao, this just made my day.... haha a van in the beach....

u know what they have to do to fix that, EA can just throw in random van around the map before the game finish loading. hahaha, problem solved.

[apple23]

okay, now that is just a total anti-EA fanboy statement there. I couldn't imagine anyone being that stupid.

[yurihomer]

okay, now that is just a total anti-EA fanboy statement there. I couldn't imagine anyone being that stupid.
hahaha, anti-ea fanboy... i love that... u know what, i don't anti ea, they just dissapoint me with the games, so now i stop buying them.
omg, u called me a "stupid!",:uhh: omg, it really hurt my feeling... :(:cry:
psh, is "stupid" all u ever taught to say?

[Annihlator :D]

hahaha, anti-ea fanboy... i love that... u know what, i don't anti ea, they just dissapoint me with the games, so now i stop buying them.
omg, u called me a "stupid!",:uhh: omg, it really hurt my feeling... :(:cry:
psh, is "stupid" all u ever taught to say?

Don't take it to heart, he's still a little touchy because of Soviet :p

[apple23]

hahaha, anti-ea fanboy... i love that... u know what, i don't anti ea, they just dissapoint me with the games, so now i stop buying them.
omg, u called me a "stupid!",:uhh: omg, it really hurt my feeling... :(:cry:
psh, is "stupid" all u ever taught to say?

So you insult EA like that? And anyway, I wasn't calling you stupid, I was saying that I couldn't imagine EA being as stupid as you said they were. i couldn't imagine anyone being that stupid.

And yes, Annihilator does have some truth to hsoi statement there...

[JaseNZ]

I like the Tesla tanks, they seem to make short work of emeny units, but I can't seem to find them on the build menu, bugger!

[truefeel]

That's b/c they are singleplayer campaign only.

[Zardac the Great]

Like the "Unassuming Soviet Tank?"

:D

[teslagod2003]

I like the Tesla tanks, they seem to make short work of emeny units, but I can't seem to find them on the build menu, bugger!


i loved the tesla tanks,then they took it out...:(:(:(

ea really sucks...

i gues the only game that i'll ever like that ea made is the nba live series...

anyways,they had tesla tanks for soviets and the shogun executioner for the japs,but i dont think the allies had any for campaign only unit...

i wonder if any ground unit can take out that shogun executioner...:lol:

i really wonder why they made tesla tanks just for campaign...

about that mirage tanks,i think they were alot better when they were in RA2...

mirage and IFVs in front while the prism annihilates the enemy...:lol::lol::lol:

i gues EA just doesnt wanna promote war,but they just wanna make money...

[Thumper]

there are no tesla tanks because them tesla boats serve as both land and water tesla tanks. is it really a mystery?

[Tommy]

I think it can be used to attack (mirage tanks in ra3 are good for attacks because of their spectrum cannon).
Just need to watch out for air units.

If mirage tanks could go over water that would be great haha.:color1: