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Wesforce
04-17-2004, 11:01 AM
Welcome to ShadowZero

ShadowZero is a derivative of the old game that has lasted a good six chapters here on the Den, and may even one day get finished.

This spin off has come about partly as a way to iron out faults seen in the old game - Super-Power characters, too many GMs-per-player, not enough of a plot to follow to name but a few. I also wanted to take it in a different direction, so it isn't just Shadowrun-with-the-names changed.

So, how will it change from the original?

1) One GM. That would be me. This solves the problem of GMs not agreeing on things, not knowing the plot of the chapter, and makes the post of GM more powerful. Now there is no reason not to let the GM know exactly what you're doing: If you want to do anything you don't want tthe other characters to know about, come to the GM. You can trust teh Gm. Honest. The GM will be confidential, and try hard to make all chars a part of the story.

2) Magic: Magic rules will be tighter, and more simplified. It'll go something like this: Each Magic character gets one 'combat spell' that can be used many times, one 'big bastard spell' that can be used maybe once per chapter and will leave you fragged, and a few inconsequential little spells solely for the point of adding character. I'll explain later ina further post.

3) Characters: All characters will have to be either Shadowrunners/Trash - Basically illegal, unknown mercenaries who can't or don't want to live their lives the legal, insulated corp-friendly way. You can choose a 'normal' character if you want: A civilian, cop, corp-scum, etc, but be prepared for bad things to happen to them.
Additionally, characters will be balanced. No Genetically-engineered magical cyber-death ninja-ex-Spetznatz men who get cloned immediately upon death, please. I want (meta)humans, who can be cybered or given magical ability (which both have downsides too).
I'm not trying to make everyone the same, just on a fairly equal level - And besides, the best way to make your character unique is to give she/he/it character, not lots of guns.
Btw: No half-races either.

4)Teh Matrix: Deckers take note here. I plan to do Matrix-jacking individually, either through PMs or IMs, kind of like a 'choose your own adventure' book. You'll have presented choices to make. The main reasons for this are 1) to speed the whole thing up and 2) To stop all the cybery stuff annoying the non-deckers.
(If this works out, I'll apply it to Astral Space too, or maybe 'sub quests')

5) Writing Style: It doesn't have to be third person now. You may write your character's piece from first person if you prefer. On a related note, you may now have one Player character and several Non-Player characters, the major difference being that you MUST write with an emphasis on the PC.

Any comments or suggestions, feel free to post.

And now... Some intro text.


RPG: World Setting



The world is a Cyberpunk nightmare where all the old fantasy creatures (Elves, Dwarves, Orks, Dragons etc) have returned to the world, while humans have rediscovered their magic powers.
It is the 2060's, and Corporations dominate the globe, holding national governments to ransom.
In the streets where life is cheap, mercenaries known as Shadowrunners work for the highest bidder, using their cyber and magical skills performing sabotage, assassinations, data steals and other useful jobs as the corporations vie for the top slot, whilst in the skies above Dragons duke it out with Attack Choppers.

The balance of power has been dramatically altered by the return of magic. In North America, Canada and the US have lost most of their land and have had to join together to form the United Canadian and American States (UCAS) at a fraction of it's former power and influence. Elsewhere, many governments are controlled by magical juntas, and Japan, the world's dominant superpower, looks to the West and the Soviet Union rising once again while the corp's ill-equipped lackeys, the MUNDI, try to make sense of it all.


Welcome, visitor. Here you will find the basic information about our world. It is a world of shadow... you will need this information to survive.


Police service:
The majority of Police services are Corp-Security (in this city. Some cities still have government police - Britsprawl, for example, but British police are armed these days.
Corp cops are well-trained, armed and armoured. Street cops have handguns, but can call on Heavy weapons, drones, gunships and HRT teams at a radio call (Highways are patrolled by Cars and Panzers).

MUNDI is the "Megacorp and United Nations Defense Initiative". Basically it's a kind of Corp-Interpol, boasting conventional armed-forces formations. These include Mechanized Infantry, Light Tanks, Panzer Attack, VTOLs, Gunships and Mobile Artillery. While not quite well-quipped enough to take on National or Corp armies, they can instill law and order in troublespots. Casualties among MUNDI are high, and they are regarded pretty much as a joke, especially by the Corporations who see them as an outdated, useless organisation that they can sell cheap, used military hardware to.


Money:
The international currency is the Nuyen [¥]

Currency is all-electronic. Everyone carries a 'Credstick' which serves as a credit-card, passport, ID etc, all- in-one, with a fingerprint scanner. It takes an electronic expert to reprogram a credstick to steal cash of it.
However, Shadowrunners, because of their 'Unofficial' status, prefer 'blank' credsticks which just have the cash. In effect, they have no ID (apart from maybe fake ID credsticks).


Races:
Orks and Trolls don't have to have green skin, they can range from all the human skin tones too.

Elves can short or tall.

Trolls are bigger than Orks (about 3m tall or so, but with relatively stumpy legs).

Centaurs are a rare, but officially sentinent, race. Found rarely, but most often in Italy and Greece, Centaurs are half man, half horse, and incredibly attractive creatures to other races, due to the pheromones they excrete through their sweat glands. A centaur can give intantly-obeyed commands to many weak-minded individuals. Centaurs are secretive and reclusive, rarely out of the company of their own race.
Centaurs stand a little taller than a man, with a mans torso on a horse's body. The are covered in silky fur. Centaurs run the biggest criminal organisation on the planet - Santro Sal - which specialises in brothels, organised crime, and owning the Pizza Slut chain of restaurants.

Golems are barely-living humanoid clay-men. Often found in arid middle-eastern companies, and working in the factories and warehouses of huge corporations, Golems are nearly always exploited and used as slave- labour, which Golems are too stupid (stupid on an Orkish scale!) to understand. An organisation known as Front For Golem Recognition (FoFoGoRe) seeks to implement sentinent rights for the oft-exploited, simple- minded giants.

Fashion:
Only corp-scum stick to mainstream fashion - At the moment your suit-about-town normally wears either the classic tailored dark-coloured suit (tie optional), or flashy silvery jumpsuits and sportsjackets with trainers.

Anyone else just wears whatever the hell they want - Goths, Army-fetishists (sub-categories - Urban Camo, Soviet Uniform, etc), Punks (old-style punks, leather jackets, piercings etc), Skaters (still around, very rare at this moment in time). Silver Jumpsuits are in fashion with teenagers (hey, it COULD happen!).

Hair: Cosmetic products mean any hair-colour is possible for anyone, even reactive changing colours. The revival of the Native American Nations has brought the Mohawk and Pawnee styles to the fore, too.


Cyber:
Datajacks are visble plugs on either the neck or temple (or on the arm, palm etc if you are really jazzy. Same with Rigger Jacks).
Cyberarms/legs can have fake flesh type coverings.
People with a lot of cyberware look visibly unhealthy - and their minds are often adversely affected. this goes double for the magically-active.


Weapons

Strangely, personal weapons technology doesn't seem to have advanced much in 70 years. Most weapons these days still fire chemically-propelled slugs, but more and more weapons are Smartgun-rigged, use caseless ammo and computer-controlled recoil compensation along with polymer casing and caseless ammunition to improve relability, accuracy and ease of use.
Directed-Energy weapons and railguns are available, but are strictly government and corporate military use only.

Most rifles and smg's are bull-pup configuration, caseless and made from polymers. I say 'most', not all...There are still many 'antique' rifles, like M16s, AK74s, even a few SA-80s (still grudgingly in servive with the British army )
Energy weapons are not fully-developed yet, so are bulky and delicate. Some are available to the military as two-man-team anti-vehicle/personnel weapons, still in the trials stage owing to their vast prices.

Also, new people please see these links to Nyer's site for more: (Although these need to be updated)
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/politics.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/megacorps.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/archetypes.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/magic.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/technology.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/weapons.html

VO
04-17-2004, 11:45 AM
Huzzah! This should be fun. :color3:

I'd just like to point out a few things, though.



2) Magic: Magic rules will be tighter, and more simplified. It'll go something like this: Each Magic character gets one 'combat spell' that can be used many times, one 'big bastard spell' that can be used maybe once per chapter and will leave you fragged, and a few inconsequential little spells solely for the point of adding character. I'll explain later ina further post.



I think this is a little unfair - surely the GM can just keep check that magic characters don't become too powerful, possibly requesting a list of "sample spells" in their profile instead of a definitive limit. Magic users in ALOS seemed naturally more restricted than fighters anyway.



4)Teh Matrix: Deckers take note here. I plan to do Matrix-jacking individually, either through PMs or IMs, kind of like a 'choose your own adventure' book. You'll have presented choices to make. The main reasons for this are 1) to speed the whole thing up and 2) To stop all the cybery stuff annoying the non-deckers.
(If this works out, I'll apply it to Astral Space too, or maybe 'sub quests')


I really don't think this is a good idea - conversing via pm may take just as long as going through a series of posts anyway. Also, if I take a very non-combat orientated character who specialises in decking, surely to be fair I'm not gonna be doing much in combat, so that might as well be done via pm so I don't have to sit through it :p. Maybe a better system is to give advance warning of possible decking oppurtunities to the decker player, to allow them to prepare their matrix sections so they don't drag out, or simply provide another activity for the ones who aren't involved.



5) Writing Style: It doesn't have to be third person now. You may write your character's piece from first person if you prefer. On a related note, you may now have one Player character and several Non-Player characters, the major difference being that you MUST write with an emphasis on the PC.

Any comments or suggestions, feel free to post.


Personally, I feel a mix between first and third person will prevent the RPG flowing very well, as well as making it very confusing if the GM hijacks a character for a moment - if the player uses first person normally, do you continue it, and end up with several characters in the same post from the same viewpoint? IMHO we should just stick to third person - that doesn't prevent any huge problems to anyone, and just allows everything to synergise better. :)

Artificial Idiot
04-17-2004, 11:57 AM
Yeah, I agree. Keep the person and tense the same, it'll become confusing otherwise.

Otherwise, I like the rest. As long as it's not so combat orientated, I'm not really that bothered :)

Apache_Longbow
04-17-2004, 12:30 PM
Looks good. I wanted to join ALOS all along after I registered, but didn't think I could fit in, and WOC just wasn't the type of storyline that sparked my interest (I wasn't writing much when that started, either). But I'll definelty try my best to be in this :)

CKW
04-17-2004, 03:43 PM
Why not, i have had some ideas for chars.

PS: Are orc cuties allowed?

Master Chris
04-18-2004, 01:29 AM
Sounds good.

CKW: Without infringing upon Wes' jurisditcion, I'm pretty sure that there are orks out there that aren't dog ugly, maybe even 'cuties' as you put it.

One thing I liked about ALOS was the references to previous events, characters, and so forth. You know, like the Red Dawn and the WESFORCE mages, stuff like that. What I'm getting at is, can there be little references to characters, events and so forth from ALOS? That'd rock.

VO
04-18-2004, 04:44 AM
Sounds good.

CKW: Without infringing upon Wes' jurisditcion, I'm pretty sure that there are orks out there that aren't dog ugly, maybe even 'cuties' as you put it.

One thing I liked about ALOS was the references to previous events, characters, and so forth. You know, like the Red Dawn and the WESFORCE mages, stuff like that. What I'm getting at is, can there be little references to characters, events and so forth from ALOS? That'd rock.

Reply - indeed, although the world seems to start at around the same time as ALOS - either the same world events could be happening, or we could hear passing mention of them turning out differently. :)

Wesforce
04-18-2004, 06:33 AM
Way ahead of you ;)

I did plan for everyone to use all-new characters (VO did ask if he could use Mary and I thought that was okay, as she was underused). Thats not to say we can;t have a few cameos...

VO, would you find a mix between first and third person so confusing if each segment is clearly marked as from the viewpoint of a single character? I do agree that the same tense should be used throughout though.

CKW: There were 'Hottie' female Orks in Shadow. I imagine they;d look something like in here...

http://studiorain.wc3campaigns.com/wccomics/threeblademasterspage01.jpg
http://studiorain.wc3campaigns.com/wccomics/mountaingiant.jpg

LeFire
04-18-2004, 08:15 AM
Another RPG?

Should be fine... all new characters, right? Heh... the cameo idea sounds fun. Something like the new characters coming across legends of the old ones.

Nyerguds
04-19-2004, 05:04 PM
1) One GM. That would be me. This solves the problem of GMs not agreeing on things, not knowing the plot of the chapter, and makes the post of GM more powerful. Now there is no reason not to let the GM know exactly what you're doing: If you want to do anything you don't want tthe other characters to know about, come to the GM. You can trust teh Gm. Honest. The GM will be confidential, and try hard to make all chars a part of the story.
...so don't worry, he won't give out your DEN password or bank account number... Honest! :p

2) Magic: Magic rules will be tighter, and more simplified. It'll go something like this: Each Magic character gets one 'combat spell' that can be used many times, one 'big bastard spell' that can be used maybe once per chapter and will leave you fragged, and a few inconsequential little spells solely for the point of adding character. I'll explain later ina further post.
It's more fun if it's less tight... I mean, heck, are you gonna calculate how much bullets can be fired on a 'run too? :\

3) Characters: All characters will have to be either Shadowrunners/Trash - Basically illegal, unknown mercenaries who can't or don't want to live their lives the legal, insulated corp-friendly way. You can choose a 'normal' character if you want: A civilian, cop, corp-scum, etc, but be prepared for bad things to happen to them.
Additionally, characters will be balanced. No Genetically-engineered magical cyber-death ninja-ex-Spetznatz men who get cloned immediately upon death, please. I want (meta)humans, who can be cybered or given magical ability (which both have downsides too).
I'm not trying to make everyone the same, just on a fairly equal level - And besides, the best way to make your character unique is to give she/he/it character, not lots of guns.
Btw: No half-races either.
Wewt :)
I'm gonna be some low-life human arms dealer that was quickly nicknamed 'bunny' because he's definitely not cut out to be a 'runner :)

4)Teh Matrix: Deckers take note here. I plan to do Matrix-jacking individually, either through PMs or IMs, kind of like a 'choose your own adventure' book. You'll have presented choices to make. The main reasons for this are 1) to speed the whole thing up and 2) To stop all the cybery stuff annoying the non-deckers.
(If this works out, I'll apply it to Astral Space too, or maybe 'sub quests')
I think that's a good idea... there was a lot of confusion about the possibilities of matrix/astral battle before... this should keep that under control.
Will be kinda hard for people that don't have MSN though :\

5) Writing Style: It doesn't have to be third person now. You may write your character's piece from first person if you prefer.
== one big mess. Believe me. Just stick to 3rd person past tense, or it'll be totally unreadable


Hair: Cosmetic products mean any hair-colour is possible for anyone, even reactive changing colours. The revival of the Native American Nations has brought the Mohawk and Pawnee styles to the fore, too.
I can't believe you made a separate section just for hair. Freak :p

Also, new people please see these links to Nyer's site for more: (Although these need to be updated)
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/politics.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/megacorps.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/archetypes.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/magic.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/technology.html
http://www.freewebs.com/cnc2sw/rpg/info/weapons.html
I know, I know... but I got no idea what to update it with :freek:

Wesforce
04-19-2004, 05:13 PM
I meant I was going to update it. Soon :color1:

Stop critiscizing hair, oh ye of little hair-imagination :p

Calculating bullets: That'd be cool, actually. Or was that meant to be a trick question?

(No-one really goes crazy with the guns anyway. The problem is more to do with HAR HAR! BULLETS CANNOT HARM ME!)

And does ANYONE support different perspectives? Ever read a multi-1st person story?

Artificial Idiot
04-19-2004, 05:18 PM
Wewt :)
I'm gonna be some low-life human arms dealer that was quickly nicknamed 'bunny' because he's definitely not cut out to be a 'runner :)

wewt wewt! Cutified street scum! :color2:

And Wes, I've read one and a half (the half being Zombie's RPG so far) and I just don't like the style. It's kind of confusing, and it would be gawd awful if we had both styles mixed. Trust me, although I doubt anybody would want to use first person, I wouldn't leave the option open.

And I have my Char part sorted, but I want to talk to you about one or two things :p

Desolator12
04-19-2004, 05:24 PM
I'd kinda like 1st person...but 3rd is easier to follow and not all of us have characters that have the exact name as our forum nicks :p

Are Mobile Automatons allowed? Androids...robots...droids...whatever you wanna call em....

Wesforce
04-19-2004, 05:43 PM
No, no Mobile Automatons for characters.

Rigger characters can have a drone or two (aerial, groud or walker variant). Walker drones are easily identifiable though (unless say its dark and they're wearing long coats or something.

Btw a clarification on drones: They aren't autonomous: They have a limited decree of self-control (ie: You say 'go here' and it will find the best route to wherever 'here' is. You say 'shoot anyone coming into this area with red hair' and they will, etc. Simple commands.
They can also be directly controlled by remote, like a rigger controls vehicles.

1st person again:
You wouldn;t need a character with the same name as your nick, you'd just post like this:

***

Badjimmy
I drank my beer. By merde, it tasted crap. To lighten my mood I donned my best gingham and fired a few clips of submachinegun ammo out the window into the Decker convention on the streets below.

Just then, the phone rang.

'Merde alors!' I said, in my comedy accent, not having any better (or indeed any other) words in my vocabulary.

***

Etc.

Desolator12
04-19-2004, 06:05 PM
nuts... I wanted to be MA12... oh well... time to think up something...hmm...are time parodoxes allowed? I'm thinking about bringing Drakken Darkraven to the city, but he's back in D&D/Graal times :p

Nyerguds
04-20-2004, 01:46 PM
NO EXISTING CHARACTERS was one of the primary rules in ALOS :mad:
so don't even THINK about that.


And Wes, no offense, but that would be serious suckage.

Desolator12
04-20-2004, 03:22 PM
Ok, I'll try to think up something original... for a change :p

Wesforce
04-20-2004, 05:01 PM
Why, Nyerguds?

Apache_Longbow
04-20-2004, 06:19 PM
Personally, I have to agree with the no 1st-person people. The style is just not as fun to read IMO, and it would cause confusion.

But meh, it's your RPG and I guess it doesn't effect me, at least not for the writing portion.

Wesforce
04-20-2004, 06:23 PM
Okay, I'll go with the majority vote on the 1st-person.

But not even as a plot tool? Narration?

Artificial Idiot
04-20-2004, 06:30 PM
I think we can work bits of it in to things like writings, news reports, etc. But not for the general chracter movement or dialouge. As ALOS had instances of first person, but they were well placed and made sense.

Phyre
04-21-2004, 11:51 AM
Sounds good... count me in

Wesforce
04-21-2004, 02:37 PM
I think we can work bits of it in to things like writings, news reports, etc. But not for the general chracter movement or dialouge. As ALOS had instances of first person, but they were well placed and made sense.

I'm thinking one character who can write in 1st person, and act as a focal point for the major stuff.

The idea is to make the whole thing more 'personal', make people show and react to feelings more.

AND STOP CALLING IT ALOS!!!!

Artificial Idiot
04-21-2004, 02:49 PM
I'm thinking one character who can write in 1st person, and act as a focal point for the major stuff.

The idea is to make the whole thing more 'personal', make people show and react to feelings more.

AND STOP CALLING IT ALOS!!!!
Perhaps, could you possibly post an example of what you mean as I'm somewhat confused?

And ok, want me to call it SHADOW from now on? :p

Wesforce
04-30-2004, 01:35 PM
Update: Some new rules and clarifications.

The story I have lined up is investigation heavy: So please don't post all kinds of crazy crap, keep the story central. I (the GM) will play all NPCs - Even those 'owned' by players, for the purposes of what they know, etc. NPCs may be subject to GM-Control if I think its necessary (based on what attributes you've created for them).

Your posts must be central to your PC: Write about what you're going to do next and how, and then how your character is dealing with everything.

If/when your PC dies, you can move to one of your NPCs.

Bunny-hopping: With permission, I'd like to borrow Lefire's 'bunny-hop permission' rule, it could be useful in this.

Nyerguds
04-30-2004, 03:13 PM
Bunny says: "Hopping? You stay the frag away from me! And keep those hands where I can see 'em, fragger!"

:p

LeFire
04-30-2004, 08:13 PM
So should we post "hijack permission" levels for all our characters? I'll probably give full-hijack permission to Westforce for this one... I imagine a Spellbreaker would be extremely useful to counter some... "overpowerful" PC spells.

Wesforce
05-01-2004, 06:28 AM
Thx :)

And yes, posting your permissions is probably a good idea. Its mainly for Players to work together though, and to ease the game along, say, if someone is oput for a long time.

*Bunny gets 'hopped' the monet he turns his back* ;P

Nyerguds
05-04-2004, 02:41 AM
Just something I noticed when Landry posted...

To all new RPG players: don't repeat things that already have been posted. Just pick up where your character last ended up, and start writing what happens after that. Otherwise it gets too much, and we've already read that anyway.


and totally off-topic:
Wes, in your sig that genius Tony Halliday say "So flat and one-dimensional"... but flat is already two-dimentional :p

Wesforce
05-04-2004, 12:51 PM
1) TonI not Tony, you miserable worm. Short for Antoinette.
2) Learn what 'metaphor' is, fragger. I bet you'll be saying 'no-one could be flat - They'd be dead!' next... :rolleyes:

Nyerguds
05-04-2004, 07:05 PM
Not at all. But that guy says 'flat AND one-dimensional'. That's impossible, since they rule eachother out. :p

Apache_Longbow
05-04-2004, 08:12 PM
Not at all. But that guy says 'flat AND one-dimensional'. That's impossible, since they rule eachother out. :p
I thought Toni Holliday was a chick :wtf:

KrasnyOktyabr
05-04-2004, 08:14 PM
She is.

Nyerguds
05-05-2004, 02:07 AM
Oh. So it's just female logic then?

...won't even try to argue with that :p

Artificial Idiot
05-05-2004, 02:27 AM
You know, you wouldn't NEED immunity from Wes' executional tendencies if you didn't ask for it :p

KrasnyOktyabr
05-05-2004, 05:24 AM
Well, aside from those times Wes just decides to volunteer you for execution... :p

Nyerguds
05-05-2004, 07:52 AM
You know, you wouldn't NEED immunity from Wes' executional tendencies if you didn't ask for it :p
At least I'm safe from Wesforce's 'female' logic :p

Wesforce
05-05-2004, 07:57 AM
Now will someone make us safe from Nire's anal-retentive OVERLOADS!??!?!!?

Artificial Idiot
05-05-2004, 07:59 AM
I don't think there is any protection out there for that :p

KrasnyOktyabr
05-05-2004, 01:38 PM
I'll sell you an aresol spray and you can pretend it will protect you. :)

Nyerguds
05-26-2004, 07:38 AM
Another note... we use words like 'frag' and 'drek' to make sure we don't get "****"-ed up stuff in the RPG... so, I' like to ask everyone to use these things, ok? Juse for the sake of reading aesthetics.

Artificial Idiot
05-26-2004, 07:58 AM
Okie dokey you fragging son of a drekfaced slitch :D

Nyerguds
05-26-2004, 11:58 AM
That's the spirit!

But I was hardly addresing you with that, AI :p

Apache_Longbow
05-26-2004, 12:05 PM
If we just got a word for *****, then I'd be happy, as that's the only one I use in it's real form.

Nyerguds
05-26-2004, 12:06 PM
That's what 'drek' means :p
And 'crap' isn't censored either.

Apache_Longbow
05-26-2004, 12:09 PM
But see, this sounds weird:

Drek! thought [insert name] as [insert object] exploded.

And crap isn't as "strong" of a word. We need something like shlit, but not as obvious of a replacement :p But if worse comes to worse, frag can be used anywhere :D

VO
05-26-2004, 12:11 PM
We could petition for the swear filter to be taken of :p

Artificial Idiot
05-26-2004, 12:40 PM
That's the spirit!

But I was hardly addresing you with that, AI :p

Yeah, I know. But I'll take any excuse to swear mindlessly at you! :D

I dunno VO, I think having our own special swear words gives the world some feeling.

However, could be good for other RPGs :p

Nyerguds
05-26-2004, 02:10 PM
But see, this sounds weird:

Drek! thought [insert name] as [insert object] exploded.
Doesn't sound that weird to me...

But then again, 'drek' has exactly that same meaning in Dutch :p


Like in Landry's sentence there... it would've looked a lot better like this:
"Good. Keep everyone able on alert. Drek's about to hit the fan tonight."
^ that's what I'm talking about.

Of course, if you want to use "*****", by all means, use it like that, so it doesn't turn into ****.

Apache_Longbow
05-26-2004, 03:55 PM
In Landry's sentence it sounds more like a person than a swear, but I guess I'm just being picky. I'll just use frag, it's the God of all words :p

Wesforce
05-26-2004, 04:15 PM
:color1:

'Good Grud' and 'Sweet Jovis!' are also aceptable. Maybe 'Light save us!' or 'Stormcrow (something or other)' if you're religion is 'Light'

Nyerguds
05-28-2004, 09:43 AM
Yet another note... if you're too late with a post, please don't post stuff that's supposed to have happened 5 posts ago, unless it's REALLY necessary for the story, and then indicate after which post it happened. A_L, your post with Bunny there messed up the continuity quite a bit, since you make it seems he's still there now :wtf:


And another, more personal note...

"Stop being a wimp, and lets get a move on. We don't have all day."

Bunny does NOT talk that way, seeing as he pretty much considers himself a 'wimp'

Apache_Longbow
05-28-2004, 01:25 PM
Sorry, I thought he had just gone outside, not left completely (I assumed he would be coming back inside).

Nyerguds
05-28-2004, 06:21 PM
then please, READ the POSTS -_-

He was going out to hide a body. Obviously he wouldn't just put it in the street clinic's trash container :rolleyes:

Apache_Longbow
05-29-2004, 12:00 AM
Once again, sorry, it was late when I read/posted. I'll try to wait until morning before I post from now on :dizzy:

Nyerguds
07-11-2004, 10:05 AM
Argh, Deso....

Johnson was a COP before they turned him into that. Not an assassin. And one person pulling off the "omg yuo killed my parents" stuff was already far too much IMO -_-
(seriously Landry... "whatever the badguy will turn out to be, it killed my parents".. come on.)



OMG I sound like a disgruntled postal worker in this thread :freek:

Wesforce
07-11-2004, 10:23 AM
NOOOOO!!!! Nyer - put downt hat gun!!!

And what Nyer says is quite correct - 'OMG You killed my parentsing' (Copyright VO/Nyer) is bad. I won't ban it, but it must all be worked out at character creation - just saying the badguy of whatever chapter this is is wrong, mmkay?

Nyerguds
07-13-2004, 02:51 AM
Hmm... the ending is kinda sudden, no? I would've liked to know more about Deadwood's reaction, maybe about the little slip the Johnson made in the briefing, stuff like that... just actually finish it :\

Couldn't you write a kind of epilogue?

KrasnyOktyabr
07-13-2004, 10:36 AM
If I recall correctly Wes intends on writing an epilogue for it. :)

Desolator12
07-13-2004, 11:24 AM
actually, if Dragon sees anybody that has the slightest resemblance to the assassin, he get's psycho... it's not like only one person has a tatoo...

but not anymore... since he 'THINKS' that the assassin isn't dead...

also, what's to stop a cop from having a side-job... especially one as insane as Johnson?

Nyerguds
07-13-2004, 03:39 PM
D00d, the fact he was put in that metal contraption probably MADE him insane.

Desolator12
07-20-2004, 11:45 AM
the fact that he allowed himself to be put in that metal contraption and get vampyrism states that he was insane before that...

Artificial Idiot
07-20-2004, 01:11 PM
And you MUST be insane for thinking this is so clear cut and black and white :rolleyes:

Daisaka (like any corp) can be VERY persuasive. And I doubt MGJ would have weaseled his way out of it even if they wanted to. If they wanted him in that suit as a vampire, they'd have got him. Screw human rights, make the big bucks!

Desolator12
07-20-2004, 02:01 PM
Look... MGJ wasn't the assassin... Dragon either halucinated and dreams melded into reality and he saw something on MGJ that reminded him of the assassin... Dragon THINKS that MGJ was the assassin, but he wasn't... thus the assassin is still out there... and Dragon is now taking it easy and a little less insane. end of story.

Desolator12
08-14-2004, 10:55 AM
Ok, i'm getting tired of this, so I'm gonna set the record straight...

1) Dragon is NOT a drunk. He likes the taste of the alcoholic beverage that he made while working at a bar near his house... he drinks about a shot of it on occasion, and even then he doesn't even fill the entire shot glass.

2) In my latest 'runner post, I said that right now, I am only equipped to kill and not to find this guy... i said NOTHING about going out and killing Orchid! I said that I was gonna step out, check with my boss about Orchid, give him the flask (so he could serve some himself if he wanted to... the recipe is Dragon's secret) and get some non-lethal stuff just in case Orchid tries to hurt us for some reason.

Artificial Idiot
08-14-2004, 11:03 AM
He'd have a job giving him the flask. My character took it a few posts up :D

http://forums.cncden.com/showpost.php?p=75387&postcount=17

And Goblin's have a lower tolerance to alcoholic beverages then other races in the S0 world (being tyiny fraggers). And with the amount he's drinking, he damn well SHOULD be drunk :p

Nyerguds
08-14-2004, 11:03 AM
Deso, learn to read posts. Belle had taken that flask from your char quite a while ago, and you still said you had it after that.

And then there's this...
"You might be able to take this guy live... I've heard stories.
you keep talking about this "guy", when the target was most definitely female. And 'might be able to take him live' does mean the other option is killing the target. You completely forgot that that's an option WE MOST LIKELY WON'T GET PAID FOR.

Seriously man... if you want to play in an RPG, READ what other people post. ESPECIALLY the GM.

Desolator12
08-14-2004, 03:36 PM
no, there's the OTHER option Nyur... and that's he escapes while we TRY to get him live...

and I use the term him generically... because when I say it, it sounds like get 'em... so lay off me for that... it's hard as hell to break habit...

I don't think that downing a half a shot of my stuff on occasions, such as before a run, would classify me as drunk out of my mind, tripping over things, and slurring speech that much...

and sorry I didn't have time to read... i had other things to attend to, like watch my time so I don't have to pay too much for internet access down at the local cyber cafe... i was on vacation last week, remember?

I have already mentioned that my char doesn't want to kill orchid... that's why I was heading to my neighborhood to get some non-lethal weapons such as narq or tranq darts...

and about the flask... I must have missed that in my browsing through everything... so I guess I must get my flask back now...

VO
08-14-2004, 03:51 PM
USING AWESOME GODLIEK (sic) POWERS, THE MIGHTY VOES HAS DECREED THAT DESO'S RANTING BE MERGED INTO THE MAIN SHADOWZERO THREAD (and not the characters thread 'cos Nyer said it should go in here and I didn't feel like arguing). :p

In my humble opinion, Deso's calling Orchid a guy is alright, as long as it actually works as a language trait of his character - the term can be used unisexually now, so I don't see any problem with it being more common in the Shadow world.

However, Dragon does seem to be drinking quite alot... :rockbrow:

Nyerguds
08-14-2004, 03:51 PM
and sorry I didn't have time to read... i had other things to attend to, like watch my time so I don't have to pay too much for internet access down at the local cyber cafe... i was on vacation last week, remember?
Eh, if you're on vacation it's better not to post at all than to post stuff that doesn't make sense IMO.

And that's from personal experience.


If you don't read the entire thread, there's no way you can keep up with the story and you're simply making this hard (and SERIOUSLY annoying) on all of us.

Desolator12
08-14-2004, 07:37 PM
USING AWESOME GODLIEK (sic) POWERS, THE MIGHTY VOES HAS DECREED THAT DESO'S RANTING BE MERGED INTO THE MAIN SHADOWZERO THREAD (and not the characters thread 'cos Nyer said it should go in here and I didn't feel like arguing). :p

In my humble opinion, Deso's calling Orchid a guy is alright, as long as it actually works as a language trait of his character - the term can be used unisexually now, so I don't see any problem with it being more common in the Shadow world.

However, Dragon does seem to be drinking quite alot... :rockbrow:
*kmon deso... keep your cool... don't go yelling out and scre....*
FOR THE LOVE OF CRAP! HE HAD A HALF-SHOT OF HIS STUFF! DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH A SHOT IS?!
*well... there it goes... right out the fraggin window... I can't take you anywhere*
SHUT UP CONCIOUS!

*ahem* well.. anyway, I'm done vacation, and not paying for the internet anymore... so I now will have my full consentration on the RPG... erm.... hold on, my popcorn's done :p

CKW
08-14-2004, 08:11 PM
Is it me, or i'm confused at Wes recent behaviour. I mean, i asked if it was OK to add a NPC. If it was OK to add MY latest NPC. And when i add it, i get my posts deleted, and thus, breaking somehow the continuity of certain posts.

PS: I don't know, but how can wes pretend to re-add my posts when they are OK if they were deleted? I don't know of a post insertion tool yet... :p

Apache_Longbow
08-15-2004, 12:17 AM
No offense CKW, but what you used your NPC for had nothing to do with anything in relation to the plot. It seemed like all you wanted was to write about some people having sex :rockbrow:

VO
08-15-2004, 03:45 AM
*kmon deso... keep your cool... don't go yelling out and scre....*
FOR THE LOVE OF CRAP! HE HAD A HALF-SHOT OF HIS STUFF! DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH A SHOT IS?!
*well... there it goes... right out the fraggin window... I can't take you anywhere*
SHUT UP CONCIOUS!


Yes, but it seems odd, that his brew is mentioned in almost every post, when you think he might be slightly more concerned with the run. :p

Wesforce
08-15-2004, 05:02 PM
CKW: I never gave you the okay to add that PC to the RPG thread, and as AL pointed out, he added nothing. Don;t go acting innocent, because I made that perfectly fragging clear.

Deso: I assumed Dragon was drunk because of the way the lil fragger spoke ;)

CKW
08-15-2004, 05:08 PM
CKW: I never gave you the okay to add that PC to the RPG thread, and as AL pointed out, he added nothing. Don;t go acting innocent, because I made that perfectly fragging clear.

Deso: I assumed Dragon was drunk because of the way the lil fragger spoke ;)
Well, you should have said NO in first place. Going innocent? I'm going fragging confused myself :S Really confused.

What was so clear again?

Wesforce
08-15-2004, 05:18 PM
Should have said NO in the first place? Okay, why not. I'll take your advice.

NO NPCs for CKW. Ever.

How's that?

CKW
08-15-2004, 05:19 PM
The what? No NPC's? WTF?

Oh god, now i'm truly confused.

Care to get online so i can ask you what's wrong again?

(I think i'm suffering deer on the lights syndrom)

Desolator12
08-15-2004, 05:38 PM
Last time you had NPCs CKW, they were uber time marines randomly warping all over the fragging globe... I remember that from the original... at least I THINK it was you...

Wes: How so? the fact that he said that Orchid was 'him'... well.. here really wasn't any warning there about my tendencies to do that... remember, I used to be the mis-genderizer here... i think i have everybody now...

..."Wesforce-Under Debate" :p

anyway, why did you think that he was uberdrunk?

Artificial Idiot
08-15-2004, 05:40 PM
Because you seemed to be talking utter nonsense with every post you made? :p

Wesforce
08-15-2004, 05:47 PM
Bit Harsh AI, but I just got the impression he wasn't really taking any notice of people... Like he was in his own little world.

Desolator12
08-15-2004, 07:13 PM
that's me in a nutshell wes :p
yah, I was away and when I hear the word 'Vacation' my mind shuts off for the duration of said vacation... I'm back now... and since I got everything I can think of squared away, end of discussion :)

Artificial Idiot
09-27-2004, 12:12 PM
Yo, Deso....

You do realise that if all you're going to post is TWO FRAGGING LINES then it probably means you shouldn't be posting at all, right? As I'm getting a bit fed up of two line wonders here. Especially when they do NOTHING for the RPG other then having Dragon walk up to somebody and saying "hi!!!!" or "I agree!!!!!". Grudd! :|

[/Nyerguds]

Wesforce
09-27-2004, 12:45 PM
I don't actually mind short posts - better a two-line post than no-post. It just deopen ds how relevant it all is. ike when everyone is waiting for a character to make a very important decision, it'd be okay if they said 'Okay lets do it' if they were in a rush, but not something like 'Y0 d00d my l33t new gun!' 'I'm just popping back home for some frantic sexx0ring wtyh my new NPC' or the ever popular 'Itchy tasty' :scared:

Master Chris
09-27-2004, 05:27 PM
But what if it truly is itchy and tasty? (Whatever it happens to be)
:D

Wesforce
10-08-2004, 06:16 PM
Ladies and Germs, Jagged has left the building, for, I quote:

your inability to provide a gaming enviroment that caters for characters with a little more thought in them than simple gunheads, your continued disrespect for my character and your constant abuse of not only the character but also your station as a GM leaves me to consider it not worth my time to continue subjecting myself to it. so i left

NOOOOOOOOOOO :cry: I'm a bad GM, I am I am

CKW
10-09-2004, 06:55 AM
Screw him, he was an arrogant one.You KNEW THAT was going to happen and besides, I support your decisions, Wes. (despite you clearly fragged up some things in the past, but didn't everyone else too? Especially me :P)

You're not a bad GM. JTG never got the tune of the rpg, never got used to it. And he hadn't the time or patience to fully understand us. He just entered and rolled in. And thus, his char was becoming sorta like Wolf, but with more detailed background and resources.

I won't deny we could have been a bit more tolerant with him, but, in any case, I failed to see in wich way we could have helped him to get along with us. As stated by sochrates, the evil is caused by the ignorance. And this is specially applicable to this case. (mostly to JTG, sadly).

Don't worry, Wes. Like i said many times before, this isn't your life. It's just a hobby. Stay positive.

On a side note:Why has he deleted his posts? It's not that it will frag up the rpg or anything, as what happened can be reconstructed, but what's the point in that? If he's leaving because he thinks you're a bad GM, does it matter that the posts will still be there?

To MC: I'm sorry if i have to be this harsh, but it's what explains my thoughts.

Nyerguds
10-09-2004, 08:51 AM
Seriously... deleting all your ps0ts after having a char about to get killed is a sure sign of being a very sore loser

Artificial Idiot
10-09-2004, 12:27 PM
Good riddence to bad rubbish.

Honestly, I'm surprised he took as long as he did. I don't have a clue where he dragged this imaginary victimisation from, but you know what? He can keep it. :|

There's only ONE solution to prevent this from happening again...

BAN NEW PEOPLE FROM JOINING THE RPG! :p

(And let's keelhaul CKW for the fun of it...)

CKW
10-09-2004, 03:11 PM
(And let's keelhaul CKW for the fun of it...)
Ha! You wish!!:P:P Come and get me, gobbo-lover!!!

Jagged Tooth Grin
10-09-2004, 05:46 PM
my posts belonged to me, they were my own writings and, once i removed myself from the game i took my work with me, much in the same way as when i quit my job i took the equipment i brought with me. if you cant understand that, i dont care. i dont care what you think about me, your opinions have no value to me, so insult me all you like i dont give a ****
but for the record, its spelt Socrates

CKW
10-09-2004, 06:47 PM
my posts belonged to me, they were my own writings and, once i removed myself from the game i took my work with me, much in the same way as when i quit my job i took the equipment i brought with me. if you cant understand that, i dont care. i dont care what you think about me, your opinions have no value to me, so insult me all you like i dont give a ****
but for the record, its spelt Socrates
Thanks for the correction. English spelling is sometimes akward for me.

I can understand that, but I fail to see if it does any good to you to remove most of your RP writings. It looked more like unfocused anger, i say. I don't think that destroying the writings is very wise, but feh, it's your choice.

I don't know if you will read it or not, but i feel like i have to say this:

Have you ever considered that the attitude since you started here annoyed people? It's easy to blame the others and act as martyr. But, rather, are you honest enough to handle this situation with a critical eye?

If i'm the responsible of something, that would be not telling you to cool off before you annoyed certain people.(in wich i'm included).

Artificial Idiot
10-10-2004, 01:44 AM
my posts belonged to me, they were my own writings and, once i removed myself from the game i took my work with me, much in the same way as when i quit my job i took the equipment i brought with me. if you cant understand that, i dont care. i dont care what you think about me, your opinions have no value to me, so insult me all you like i dont give a ****
but for the record, its spelt Socrates
Well, that's just seems to me to be a VERY long winded way of justifying the fact that you got pissed for no apparent reason and threw my toys out of the pram. :rolleyes:

Whatever way you want to put it, it was childish. That isn't an insult, mind you, it's fact. And if you can't leave with more grace then you actually played, then the kindest and most sensible thing you can do is just stop posting in this topic. If you want to see it like you "quit a job", then technically, you're trespassing. :p

Desolator12
10-10-2004, 12:27 PM
Yo, Deso....

You do realise that if all you're going to post is TWO FRAGGING LINES then it probably means you shouldn't be posting at all, right? As I'm getting a bit fed up of two line wonders here. Especially when they do NOTHING for the RPG other then having Dragon walk up to somebody and saying "hi!!!!" or "I agree!!!!!". Grudd! :|

[/Nyerguds]
I prefer to let other people controll their characters... I can't really say "What do you think we should do?" and then go home and go to bed, now could I? I don't like controlling other characters... that was not part of my RPG upbringing... I can't grab a guy's character sheet and say, "you walk into a wall"... it's... just not done.

also, seriously, when your character dies, just leave him be! I mean, sure I got pissy at nyur for a while when he killed "Crash" (my first, human decker character)... but then again, I guess that Crash has gotten a little too out of controll... what with being infected and power-hungry and insane... and at least I took down wolf or whatever that guy's name was...

also, if you don't want to post anymore because you don't like it, just post one last time creating a creative/hilarious death for your character and leave... if you want to come back, then create a new one... like I did with Plugin and Dragon...

and also Jagged, just start the WH40k inquisitor rpg without me... I got too much **** on my plate as it is...

Nyerguds
10-13-2004, 03:55 PM
You should be able to understand how other characters think and react, and thus be able to write pieces for them, so you can actually post something that advances the general situation.

Though I know it's hard :\
And of course, when it comes to decisions, you better not take those for other people.

Nyerguds
12-01-2004, 06:25 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/20030313213143/dgnforums.cncgames.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=23

omg... the memories...
pity none of the links work :(

Desolator12
12-01-2004, 10:39 PM
You should be able to understand how other characters think and react, and thus be able to write pieces for them, so you can actually post something that advances the general situation.

Though I know it's hard :\
And of course, when it comes to decisions, you better not take those for other people.
Y' see, I have the general 'feel' of the characters, I just allow for options... I mean, Psy-adams is really kinda meek, but that doesn't mean that one day she'll have a boost of confidence and do something bold, like beat the **** outta someone using fists or a weapon besides her mind. I allow for 'options'.

and yah, good ol' nostalgia.

Artificial Idiot
12-02-2004, 02:00 AM
Wow, look at that! It's BlueThunder! Wasn't he one hell of a guy? Yeah, I remember sitting there once, looking at his name and thinking "that is one hell of a guy!".... whatever happened to him anyway? :(

Desolator12
02-06-2005, 02:50 PM
... a more accurate question would be... What happened to the RPG!?!? Me and AI are the latest ones to post, and that was BEFORE christmas!

Artificial Idiot
02-06-2005, 02:52 PM
I blame Nyerguds! Hang 'im! :shifty:

Hey, everybody else is going to blame Wes... so I might as well be original :p

Desolator12
02-06-2005, 06:33 PM
No, let's blame the electric company for sending a surge to Wes' Monitor, causing it to explode... THAT'S what ****ed everything up...

VO
07-28-2005, 05:06 PM
I miss Shadow :(

Wesforce
07-28-2005, 07:22 PM
Hmm, maybe its worth another go now I have some free time... Would players be more interested in a new story arc, or finishing the one currently on Life support?

VO
07-29-2005, 04:10 AM
I'd like a new story arc. I have no idea what's going on in the current one, and would like to try a new character.

SW Freak
07-29-2005, 06:01 AM
I know I'm not in this RPG, but I'd like you guys to start a new arc too, so I can jump on the bandwagon. Y'know, like a good little sheep? I mean, there's guns and chicks, it's guaranteed to be fun.

Wesforce
07-29-2005, 06:43 AM
Alrighty then... I have a few ideas. Hang tight. Anyone else?

CKW
07-29-2005, 07:19 AM
Me. I never had the opportunity to use Patch.

VO
07-29-2005, 09:10 AM
Me. I never had the opportunity to use Patch.


which is prescisely why MORE shadow is good :D

Nyerguds
07-29-2005, 02:01 PM
Yarr... Bunny want MEAT!



"That's no ordinary rabbit! That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!"
-Tim the Enchanter
:D

AI
07-30-2005, 01:45 PM
yay! More Shadow for the masses! Brand new shadow! Fresh off the synthi-produce line!

tagbert
07-30-2005, 05:05 PM
If you don't mind the very-likely-chance that I'd drop out, I'd like to join. :\

Wesforce
07-30-2005, 06:29 PM
As long as you understand the penalties for dopping out... Mua hahahahaa

Mua ha, muahahahahahahaha

BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!!!!


I suppose the next step is to say who you'd like to use. Any new characters need to have their character sheets done. Lets go!

VO
07-31-2005, 05:25 AM
On it, Capt'n! *salutes*

AI
07-31-2005, 08:08 AM
I'm a going to take post-S0 chapter 1 Wrightman.

tagbert
08-01-2005, 06:00 PM
As long as you understand the penalties for dopping out... Mua hahahahaa

Mua ha, muahahahahahahaha

BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!!!!


I suppose the next step is to say who you'd like to use. Any new characters need to have their character sheets done. Lets go!

So...what are the penalties? :scared:

Desolator12
08-18-2005, 06:38 PM
Ok, this has gotten extremely out-of-hand... I miss my oft-insane RPG... I petition for several of you fraggers to start to bug Wes until Wes gets back into S0-Mode

Wesforce
08-29-2005, 10:46 AM
Okay okay... Back on track. Should be posting first bit of Ch2 soon, zOK?

Um so VO I need your chara... Gibs, Deso, how about you and who are you using?

tagbert
08-29-2005, 04:20 PM
I have a profile ready and semi-waiting, but not on this computer so I win and you lose.

Desolator12
08-29-2005, 09:32 PM
I take it the original Ch2 is being nulled and voided?
Either way, I'm still gonna use Dragon.

Wesforce
08-29-2005, 10:32 PM
Its not null and void, lets just take it up to where it was left off and assume it all came off happy and nice. Yay? Yay.

Desolator12
08-30-2005, 05:34 PM
Ok, so basically the Purple Orchid run was a quote-unquote sucess, we got paid, and we're being called together by another Johnson... gotcha... either-way, Dragon also gets a bit of bio-ware to allow him to withstand the effects of alcohol and other narcotics (including poisons and tranqs) and a bit more training with that pistol of his. (If you don't like the idea, tell me... basically:

Bioware augmentations involve replacing organs and tissues with
specially-grown organic parts - a delicate and difficult process, as the
foreign tissue must be fully integrated into the body, versus forced upon
it, as cyberware is. Bioware cannot be detected, except by intensive
medical examination/testing and, in the case of extra glands and organs,
by examining X-rays. Some say that astral perceivers can tell the subtle
difference between what is natural to the body and what isn't. ))

CKW
08-31-2005, 04:11 AM
OMG A GOBLIN SPACE MARINE!

Anyway, i also consider it'd be good to allow the characters a little update.

Desolator12
08-31-2005, 06:06 AM
yah, like I'll be getting my hands on power armor any time soon -_-;;

AI
09-01-2005, 10:17 AM
Haw haw haw! Classy title Wes! :D

I'm going to go ahead and write a post if you don't mind. :)

CKW
09-13-2005, 03:34 AM
Fellow Rp'ers. Just to avoid confusion, i'd like to notice that my scarred gruff medic is an ELF. Everyone seems to be confusing him for a man.

LeFire
09-14-2005, 09:00 AM
By the way guys... I was reading Chapter 5 of ALOS (the old daemon/dragon/buclear RPG). I sorta miss all those characters, from somewhere-somehow-something's-gonna-go-bang Crystal, to that teenage half-dragon Silvia, to the crazy rivalry between Iceman and Alex, to Rusty's Aussieness...

Really, I know that the feel of the RPG got a bit out of control, but ALOS did have a magic of its own... I still remember very fondly the Vanzer/road-rail fight, the accidental war triggered in Chapter 1, the occasional nutjob elven assassins, the DocWagon battle... I even remember (and love) the epic feel and scale of the grand daemon battle... from dragons battling sky devils, to the thundering scream as the daemon horde rushed the lines of pavise-carrying MUNDI and corp gunners, to the hymn of the catholics as they charged home on their battlecycles, pennants flying like the days of nearly a thousand years ago, to normally money-grubbing, street-scum shadowrunners engaging daemons in eyeball-to-eyeball all out combat next to corporate contractors, NAN and MUNDI special forces... And I was sad when certain characters died.

So... Does anyone have the first 4 RPG's saved? It is something that I count worthy as one of those things I want to keep to my granddad days.

SW Freak
09-14-2005, 12:49 PM
Hey, just wondering, but how does magic work in this? It's just that Shatter's comment (Thought. Whatever.) piqued my interest. I'll edit the part in my post about magic if need be.

AI
09-14-2005, 01:02 PM
As far as know, magic can be used on cybered up people just the same as everybody else (I mean, it's just lumps of metal and circuity interlinked with organic fleshbags, right?). It's just that cyberware appears on the astral plane like a desk or car would (a dead, lifeless object) and people that are cybered have magical impotence due to their lifeforce being sucked away by cyber.

VO
09-14-2005, 01:20 PM
By the way guys... I was reading Chapter 5 of ALOS (the old daemon/dragon/buclear RPG). I sorta miss all those characters, from somewhere-somehow-something's-gonna-go-bang Crystal, to that teenage half-dragon Silvia, to the crazy rivalry between Iceman and Alex, to Rusty's Aussieness...

Really, I know that the feel of the RPG got a bit out of control, but ALOS did have a magic of its own... I still remember very fondly the Vanzer/road-rail fight, the accidental war triggered in Chapter 1, the occasional nutjob elven assassins, the DocWagon battle... I even remember (and love) the epic feel and scale of the grand daemon battle... from dragons battling sky devils, to the thundering scream as the daemon horde rushed the lines of pavise-carrying MUNDI and corp gunners, to the hymn of the catholics as they charged home on their battlecycles, pennants flying like the days of nearly a thousand years ago, to normally money-grubbing, street-scum shadowrunners engaging daemons in eyeball-to-eyeball all out combat next to corporate contractors, NAN and MUNDI special forces... And I was sad when certain characters died.

So... Does anyone have the first 4 RPG's saved? It is something that I count worthy as one of those things I want to keep to my granddad days.

I'm pretty sure Nyerguds has them on a website somewhere... I had the link but I lost it last time I had to reformat this pc. He should see this eventually though. :)


I miss the origianal shadow chapter especially. There was a kind of magic to that that didn't get recreated.


edit : nm, turned out I'd bookmarked it on the laptop :D

http://c.1asphost.com/nyerguds/shadow/

VO
09-16-2005, 08:06 AM
erm, CKW....

how does Patch know Sheila's on the plane?

Nyerguds
09-16-2005, 08:15 AM
Yeah... CKW, she's in the cockpit. None of the others can see her.

SW Freak
09-16-2005, 08:17 AM
Um, Wes? Jackson isn't all that huge. He's got a bulky cyberarm, certainly, and he's 6', but I didn#t think that was massive. Yet you, and most others, seem to think he's a brute. Have I made him too big? 'Cause my image of him is somebody tall but skinny.

Wesforce
09-16-2005, 08:23 AM
Oh sorry, yeah thats just the impression I got. I'll take that into account.

Yeah I ballsed-up about Sheila too... She's in the cockpit, and I was meant to add that at the end. I didn't envision Johnson taking her on purpose, more of a mysterious appearance... But still, it fits :color1:

Nyerguds
09-16-2005, 08:46 AM
Well if you'd stay online a bit longer you could've told me that :p

AI
09-16-2005, 10:15 AM
Give poor Wes a break, poor gothite had ta work yer know! :p

Desolator12
10-04-2005, 04:33 PM
ok, since I was told to keep OOC chatter here...

VO- Actually, you're wrong! Wrightman gave me her number after our first meeting in S0-1 to contact her later... that and the fact that Dragon has a wristphone...well...;)

just edit your post and we'll be in business... mmkay?

VO
10-04-2005, 04:51 PM
ok, since I was told to keep OOC chatter here...

VO- Actually, you're wrong! Wrightman gave me her number after our first meeting in S0-1 to contact her later... that and the fact that Dragon has a wristphone...well...;)

just edit your post and we'll be in business... mmkay?

my your fast.

changed it very minimally. :p

Desolator12
10-04-2005, 04:53 PM
They don't call me Quick Draw McGraw fer nuttin! :p

...actually... they DON'T call me Quick Draw McGraw... :cry:

VO
10-04-2005, 05:03 PM
Where preciesly in the arkoblock are Clay, Bunny and Dragon? I couldn't do much in my post because I couldn't figure out which dome they were meant to be in

Wesforce
10-05-2005, 08:30 AM
Clay Bunny and Dragon are in the mostly abandoned, totally lawless Beta Dome, as evidenced by the decrepitude of your surroundings, and the jolly ole' singsong of a traditional portside shadow-market in your middle distance.

Well actually Clay and Bunny should be there. Dragon is meant to be with Wrightman but somehow has managed to teleport halfway across the station... Hmm...

AI
10-05-2005, 09:14 AM
He must have had a brand new proto-type water jet on his bubble. Dashed lucky he didn't end up in the stoneage, the poor litle critter. ;)

Desolator12
10-05-2005, 10:50 AM
Well... lesse... first I was with Jackson...shoved into one single bubble...then Wrightman saw my bubble... Jackson's bubble then leaked and it was dragged out without being harmed...NEITHER Wrightman nor Jackson mentioned me in their presence... thus, I just appeared where I thought I'd be most needed...

AI
10-05-2005, 10:56 AM
Um... I did mention you. I assumed Dragon's bubble had landed near Wrightman's, but what could she do? It's not like there was any form of cross-bubble communication or she could just go for a leasuirely swim over for a nice chat and some tea and biccies. Left with no choice but to leave yer for dead, I'm afraid :p

SW Freak
10-05-2005, 11:22 AM
And I assumed that Wes had missed my post and I admit I didn't push it. It made little difference, and went better with the RPG in the long run, considering Dragon would have been dead had he been in the same bubble. You could say that Dragon climbed into another bubble in FLASHBACKOVISION!

Just a thought.

Desolator12
10-06-2005, 03:51 PM
Um... I did mention you. I assumed Dragon's bubble had landed near Wrightman's, but what could she do? It's not like there was any form of cross-bubble communication or she could just go for a leasuirely swim over for a nice chat and some tea and biccies. Left with no choice but to leave yer for dead, I'm afraid :p
Yes...we landed... into the water around the same spot... doesn't necessarily mean tides wouldn't pull us apart :\

and yah, FB-O-V :p

Wesforce
10-07-2005, 11:11 AM
Who said they were in the same Bubble? Those Bubbles are all one-man things.

SW Freak
10-07-2005, 11:44 AM
I know, but when the bubbles activated Jackson was standing beside Dragon and got swept into his bubble.

Desolator12
10-07-2005, 02:17 PM
Who said they were in the same Bubble? Those Bubbles are all one-man things.
uhm... you did. check the post -_-;;

Wesforce
10-07-2005, 11:34 PM
Maybe you misread it. There's no way two people would be able to fit into one of those things - They're small enough to inflate from a single passenger seat - Each one envelops the passenger sitting in it's seat.

SW Freak
10-08-2005, 02:27 AM
Non, the mistake was mine; I thought they wrapped up around the chairs.

"Sonova-!" cried Jackson, cut off as the bubble knocked him off his feet and scooped him into Dragon's lap.

I thought that, since Jackson and Dragon were talking and standing reasonably close, that the bubble could envelope them both. I didn't know how small it was. But it makes little difference, no? I can edit my post if it bothers people.

Wesforce
10-08-2005, 08:48 AM
Its okay, its too far gone now.

AI
10-08-2005, 08:49 AM
Woe betide anybody who reads it a few months later! :D

Wesforce
10-14-2005, 11:52 AM
I hope you don't mean the laser Deso... Because you're not there, you're at the front being minded by the Ork...

Desolator12
10-14-2005, 02:36 PM
I meant the ****ty merchandise not the laser. If Dragon saw the laser, he'd really freak out or something... his body and lasers don't mix well :p

Wesforce
10-15-2005, 12:05 AM
Uh huh, its just that you said 'it' and not 'The merchandise' or 'the guns' etc.

LeFire
10-23-2005, 07:40 PM
Exam break guys... I'm down all the way until 14th of Nov.

AI
01-17-2006, 01:25 PM
Wes, just being picky here and you can ignore me if you want - But I'm not sure Wrightman would be so insistant on him trusting her. After all, she has no control over Sheila - And she knows to make that kind of promise to somebody as seemingly volitile as Werdkund could be suicide later down the line...

Also, where are they going anyway? :p

Nyerguds
01-17-2006, 01:27 PM
yeah... you did leave us in a situation where none of us (AI, me, Deso, VO) can really post...

SW Freak
01-17-2006, 02:37 PM
Don't worry! I'll blow up the world!

Wesforce
01-17-2006, 05:22 PM
Wes, just being picky here and you can ignore me if you want - But I'm not sure Wrightman would be so insistant on him trusting her. After all, she has no control over Sheila - And she knows to make that kind of promise to somebody as seemingly volitile as Werdkund could be suicide later down the line...
Also, where are they going anyway? :p

Back to catch the killer, really. The other killer. As for Werdkund trusting her... Well logically he should cap the lot o' yer, but that would make for a prematurely short RPG. He's starting to lose his inhibitions... He knows the Neuwerke cause here is a lost one, deep down.

By the way the telecom connections are working again, if you missed that bit. Which means Nyer, you can post :yuck:

Desolator12
01-17-2006, 08:22 PM
Why do I doubt Werdkund would be able to kill dragon unles he fired at Dragon first...? :p

Oh, right.... lightning-fast reflexes, a gun with some training, and of course, the old staple :p

Nyerguds
01-18-2006, 03:40 PM
...right. Keep dreaming Deso.

By the way the telecom connections are working again, if you missed that bit. Which means Nyer, you can post :yuck:
IIRC Bunny's phone was half melted from the sea...

Wesforce
01-18-2006, 03:45 PM
I don't recall Bunny being dunked in the sludge, only Claudette... And your 'phone has been used since, hasn't it? I'll check...

Desolator12
01-18-2006, 11:51 PM
Heh, I'll be damned if I let you kill dragon THAT easy ya blue-haired fraggette :p

Wesforce
01-19-2006, 01:06 AM
What, you want those two cats to be free to carry on half-eating people, turning them into Vampyres then reproducing?!?!? :scared:

Desolator12
01-19-2006, 04:48 PM
No, I just wanted the damn huge cat off of me before he bit Dragon's head off...

And Nyur,
OOC (if you hadn't guessed already): Seriously Deso, WHAT THE DROKKING ZARK do you think you're doing?
It's called saving my ass the only way I thought of at the time, without suffering more damage. Just because he's an assassin doesn't mean that a huge cat can't hurt him. I'm pretty sure from the initial pounce attack that Dragon's got some bones to repair, and needs a new organ or two.
You can STUFF that and suffer like the rest of us.
Excuse ME? Who's the one that was under the ubercat's paw? NONE OF YOU that's for frag certain. In fact, if I can recall correctly, NOBODY near me has suffered any damage, EXCEPT myself. I seem to, about every RPG, become the designated Damage-Tank. I'll allow the occasional stuff, but if it's life threatening, well, I take care of my characters. I don't give them insta-die options.
This battle is FAR FROM OVER,
No ****. It's never over. It would have just continued at a different location.
no matter WHAT godmoding you think you can do.
I fail to see godmoding anywhere in this. Wes gave me the option to somehow create a scenario where Dragon DOESN'T die. I took the option.
Shiela is STILL just a fragging CAT you know... she DOESN'T UNDERSTAND human language.
Yes, but Shiela can sence fear. Shiela can tell if there's better prey farther away. It's BECAUSE she's STILL just a fragging CAT that she can understand other damn things. Besides, who would you rather have your boyfriend kill? Your friends, or your enemies? The monologue Dragon had was more of a semi-sentimental thing... Dragon was (and still is) in a lot of pain... the kinda stuff that can break you.

I am going to ignore your post completely.
Next time have a decent arguement, or at least know the poster's reasons, before pulling that **** again.

Wesforce
01-19-2006, 09:34 PM
Settle down. Deso Shiela wouldn't have been able to call off the other Cat even if she wanted to: Its making itself The Alpha Male by killing the frag out of all of you. No you're not the designated Damage-Tank, your number just came up. I was kind of hoping you'd shove a claw or a gun down it's throat or something but meh. Going to have to edit yer post cobber.

LeFire
01-19-2006, 11:03 PM
Ah Deso... When one of my characters gets in a oh-crap situation like that, the best way really is to just try to minimise the damage, while still keeping it real. Remember... You have other runners around you. Its only when you get into an oh-crap situation alone do you have to really worry.

Nyerguds
01-20-2006, 12:14 AM
Yes, but Shiela can sence fear. Shiela can tell if there's better prey farther away. It's BECAUSE she's STILL just a fragging CAT that she can understand other damn things. Besides, who would you rather have your boyfriend kill? Your friends, or your enemies? The monologue Dragon had was more of a semi-sentimental thing... Dragon was (and still is) in a lot of pain... the kinda stuff that can break you.
Umm... what pissed me off was just the way you made Shiela act. She wouldn't stick up for anyone, except maybe Bunny, but in this situation, even that isn't certain. You made her behaviour downright human.

And even if it WOULD BE about 'better prey'... street scum is far better prey to play with than armored fraggers with machine guns. And be damn sure both Shiela and the other cat have had enough experience to know that.

Also, as Wes said... it wasn't Shiela, it was the OTHER cat, whom Shiela doesn't have any control over.

And about your monologue... Wes had made it VERY clear this wasn't about food at all.

VO
01-20-2006, 04:11 AM
Thanks for bringing Shadow back :D

Wesforce
01-20-2006, 08:56 AM
Thanks for posting in it ;)

While we're here does anyone want to finish Ch2 as well?

Nyerguds
01-20-2006, 01:22 PM
I was quite surprised that one post was all it needed :)

I just thought, 'hey, let's reread this', and then at the end I figured I actually didn't have any problem replying on it...

SW Freak
01-20-2006, 03:36 PM
For the sake of continuity, how far away from the others is Jackson? Like, close enough to hear the sounds of a golem/saber-toothed vampire cat fight?

Wesforce
01-21-2006, 01:14 AM
Nah, its quite a distance, but you're in adjacent sectors. Even if you were close enough to hear, the sound of all the AAS guys near you firing, the charging hovercrafts, jets overhead etc would drown it out.

But the 'phones are working again...

SW Freak
01-21-2006, 02:10 AM
Okay. Sorry. I'll edit it when I get the chance.

Wesforce
01-21-2006, 02:16 AM
Okay. Sorry. I'll edit it when I get the chance.

With what you've written it seems fine ;) Sorry I hadn't read this far when I answered you

SW Freak
01-21-2006, 04:38 AM
Shiney. Thanks, Wes.

AI
01-21-2006, 05:18 AM
I'm disappointed... I really am! VO wakes up and summons this awesome Golem... And what does he get appointed to? Van flipping duty!

Bah! Bah I say... I wanted golem smothered kitty! :(

AI
05-03-2006, 04:59 PM
Ahoy-hoy, where is everyone?!

Desolator12
05-10-2006, 01:22 PM
/me waves from over at the bar :p

AI
05-10-2006, 01:28 PM
Get your drunken arse outta that stool and over to the fragging RPG, you! :p

Desolator12
05-11-2006, 06:33 PM
Only when the Lutonian posts here will I continue...

...besides, I've forgotten WTF is going on -_-;;

Wesforce
05-12-2006, 01:27 PM
Whats going on:

Shatter is with Miss J trying to frag up the Magic Reactor

The Jackson Five are heading down there for a bit of a chat

Bunny and Dragon are waiting for him to come back, twiddling their thumbs

Wrightman and Clay are hunting the infamouse 'nosecatcher' serial killer.

Patch is... Well hehehe, more on Patch later.

SW Freak
05-12-2006, 01:42 PM
Yeah, update:

The junior cert is coming up and, while I can't vouch for Anonomuss (Who, I know, isn't in this RPG, but howandever), I'm unable to multi-task. My RPGing will be cut down to a severe minimum for a while, if not ended completly. I'm sorry. If anything urgently needs my character's action, tell me, and I'll do my best. Otherwise, I'm out until after the JC, end of June-ish. Sowwy.

Wesforce
05-12-2006, 07:56 PM
Well either you or LeFire needs to do something for that part of the story to move on, I'm afraid. Either that or I'll have a UCASN Sub loaded with Alpha Assault Services crash in through the cave wall, and you'll be drowned, crushed by water pressure, and have Hypervelocity rifles fired up your jacksy. And also electrocuted and eaten by Mermaids :color1:

SW Freak
05-13-2006, 02:12 AM
Okay. Fun as that sounds, I guess I should do something.

One question; Dudes in the elevator place. Could I take 'em?

Wesforce
05-13-2006, 06:18 AM
They're waiting for you, and they have magical support. Your best bet would be a surprise of some sort - Like driving the Bunnyvan into the shaft first...

SW Freak
05-13-2006, 08:25 AM
Okies. Do my best to post. Sorry, but no promises.

LeFire
05-22-2006, 08:44 AM
Sorry Wes (and everyone in fact). Psych 4th year is no joke, and I've been wallowing in more work than I can handle. Add in work as a supermarket checkout, and I'm swamped!

Wesforce
05-22-2006, 01:57 PM
No worries. Anytime you get your groove back ;) Good to hear from you though :color1:

Desolator12
05-22-2006, 02:07 PM
school's almost over for me... expect a post from me June 2nd or so...

Nyerguds
05-25-2006, 02:51 AM
Well as you sais Wes.... Bunny and Dragon are waiting for him to come back, twiddling their thumbs. Got no idea what else to do. ATM Bunny just wants to get off the freaking island but doesn't have a clue how to do that...

Desolator12
05-26-2006, 09:23 PM
In deso-fashion, the game's been re-started... I say 'Deso-Fashion' because it's the usual few-lines to at least keep the story rolling... get back in here fraggers! There's things to kill :p

Nyerguds
05-30-2006, 12:23 AM
Gruddammit, Deso, learn to READ.

"But all he saw were two pairs of four claw marks AT THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE LADDER, going down into the darkness"

She's not on the freaking ladder, and can't possibly fall on your char.

Desolator12
05-30-2006, 12:31 PM
Gruddammit, Deso, learn to READ.

"But all he saw were two pairs of four claw marks AT THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE LADDER, going down into the darkness"

She's not on the freaking ladder, and can't possibly fall on your char.
Bloody hell... why is it always YOU that's gotta bitch at me... why not Wes...hell, I'll even take eL.

Nyerguds
05-30-2006, 12:51 PM
Because you screwed up reading MY post :p

Desolator12
05-30-2006, 12:54 PM
That still doesn't give you a right to be the one to bitch at me all the time... spread the fun around, lego-man!

Nyerguds
05-30-2006, 01:22 PM
There's also the fact that I'm always the first to spot these things because I DO read all posts carefully :p

SW Freak
05-30-2006, 01:47 PM
Now, now, children. Let's play nice. I'll post now that the edit's been made.

Desolator12
05-30-2006, 02:16 PM
Now, now, children. Let's play nice. I'll post now that the edit's been made.
Rawr.

And I read that post several times over... I guess I assumed that the shaft wasn't big enough for the huge fraggin cat that attacked me earlier to get down without bumping into someone else...

SW Freak
05-31-2006, 01:42 AM
Nah, it opened out into a room which, up until recently, held an elevator. Was an elevator. Whatever. Anyway, I'll post when I get home from school. 4.00pm-ish GMT

Nyerguds
05-31-2006, 12:38 PM
And I read that post several times over... I guess I assumed that the shaft wasn't big enough for the huge fraggin cat that attacked me earlier to get down without bumping into someone else...
Um, we dumped an entire VAN into it. I thought that'd be a hint... :p

Eh, side note to you both... if you look at the post of Claudette going down, the guard used his credstick ID, not a card...

SW Freak
06-03-2006, 07:05 AM
Rightio, post edited. Sorry about the confusion, Nyer, and that it took so long.

VO
08-23-2006, 06:25 AM
Blast from the (Shadow)Past!
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9394/file0002xf9.th.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=file0002xf9.jpg)

Nyerguds
11-28-2006, 03:23 AM
AI, who is this "Claudette" you talk about? :p
AFAIK, only Shatter knows her name.

oh, and lol @ that, VO ;)

Master Chris
11-28-2006, 03:45 AM
Yay. Prologue comic!

"Actually, I am a Ballerina."

Good times.

AI
11-28-2006, 08:14 AM
AI, who is this "Claudette" you talk about? :p
AFAIK, only Shatter knows her name.
Oh, you can frag right off Mr. 'I'm gonna walk all the way home in a diving suit' :yuck: :p

Nyerguds
03-21-2007, 08:11 AM
Gah... this is going way too fast. By the time I finish a 5-line post, there's already 3 new posts in between...

Story-wise, I think Bunny's very close to just saying 'screw you all' and walking off though. As he said, he doesn't want to get hired as gunslinger.

Wesforce
03-21-2007, 08:23 AM
Did anyone ever mention using him as a gunslinger?

JKumping to conclusions ;)

There are lopts of riggers for a reason - as explained.

Nyerguds
03-21-2007, 08:27 AM
Heh. Well the way the dwarf was stressing the importance of gunslingers and generally looking down on the riggers (figuratively, of course :p ), it wasn't too strange to jump to that conclusion...

Wesforce
03-21-2007, 08:39 AM
Did he? x.x I think he just looks down on anyone who... Hm, no, wait. Anyone :p. Not sure if you've guessed, but he's a mage. He should also sound like someone who doesn't like backchat, coming from a disciplined organisation...

Desolator12
03-21-2007, 08:57 AM
I've gotta stop posting for right now until 3 PM EST... don't have any more classes that I can futz through and post here as well.

Wesforce
03-21-2007, 09:02 AM
No worries. If anyone can't post, we'll try not to move things forward too much without you...

The truck looks like this: Only it has a tiny slit where the windscreen should be, and is covered in rigger-sensors.

SW Freak
03-21-2007, 09:20 AM
Hmm...that was pretty frenetic. Should we slow down for a mo, to let the peoples who have missed this rush time to post?

Wesforce
03-21-2007, 09:23 AM
Good idea. This is the contemplating stage :)

SW Freak
03-21-2007, 09:25 AM
Okies. So no one acts until we have all in agreement, basically. This chapter looks like being fun...

AI
03-21-2007, 09:28 AM
Well, there is another RPG you can post in if you're bored... :p

SW Freak
03-21-2007, 09:30 AM
Whoa, really? Wow...how'd I miss something like that? :p

Wesforce
03-21-2007, 09:32 AM
Oh, the target Rigger's name is on the chip too: Hazard Stripe. I'll post his profile when your characters know the info (time to call your street contacts maybe ;))

Serenla
03-21-2007, 10:06 AM
Sigh, I stay up all night and no one posts cuz you're all 5 hours ahead of me. Then I leave for an hour and a half to go to the library and come back to like 20 posts and new plot developments that I missed.

Life isn't fair :\

EDIT: OK I'm going to hand in my essay and if I come back to 20 more posts, I swear to God I'll kill you all :|

Nyerguds
03-21-2007, 01:34 PM
I know the feeling -_-

btw, the thing with my connection problems seems to be in our LAN... on the LAN router PC I can access this place fine, but on my PC it doesn't load.

Freaking odd, but it does mean I can post here.

Wesforce
03-23-2007, 08:20 PM
Wow, that was pretty intense :dead:

Let's pick up the pieces and bring this bit to an end... Its been pretty draining...

AI
03-23-2007, 09:09 PM
Deso - Rush doesn't have her number. She only gave it to four people, and one only got it because Nyer couldn't read either. :p

Nyerguds
03-25-2007, 01:36 AM
Nyerguds was hoping that common sense would have prevailed over paranoia and she'd like people to be able to alert her if there would be some change of plan or if something very fragged up would happen during the run <_<

Wesforce
03-25-2007, 11:04 AM
A forlorn hope, as it turned out.

But it seems even that level of paranoia wasn't enough :scared:


Edit:

Oh, I know there's been a lot of posting with Steel Rose and Cleaner today, but that hasn't reallt affected anyone else. Other characters: There's still a good hour's worth of time to do stuff before the meet.

Wesforce
03-26-2007, 04:28 PM
Hoi, scum. I am out for a couple of days...

I need to break some heads.

See you soon...

Desolator12
03-27-2007, 09:47 AM
I swear... I leave to take care of some business for a few days, come back, and I'm 100+ Posts behind.

AI
03-27-2007, 10:05 AM
Don't worry - Most of it is Anon/Wesfarce/Aies sub-plot spam anyway. :drunk: