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Vindicare

10-28-2008, 06:18 PM

Got confirmation the game was shipped early this morning via UPS.... Just received it now! Currently installing, please feel free to ask me anything about it.

EDIT: THIS GAME IS AMAZING!

Jumped right into a skirmish match and I must say the A.I. is at first shot pretty brutal. Within the first 5 minutes my base was completely over run with Soviet Choppers. Cool thing is you choose your enemies difficulty (i used medium) and set the A.I. to random. It isn't like CNC3 where you choose turtler or steamroller, It chooses one of the Soviet Sub commanders. I was pitted against the female Soviet Air commander and man she was tuff :-) tons of choppers and a steady stream of inf. and tanks comming at me. I'm goin to be continuing with Skirmish for a while so I'll talk to you all soon.

Zardac the Great

10-28-2008, 11:51 PM

Big woot!

So...Anything else to report?

Miles

10-29-2008, 04:35 AM

It will be available on thursday for us Belgians. I'm sure I'll love it.
I plan to play with the Soviets online so I can't wait for a "Red Alert 3 Tactics" subforum. I'm probably gonna play a lot of Compstomp games with friends too. I hope it will be as addicting as Zero Hour was for me.
I'll show these Imperial whacko's they're not welcome in the Great Soviet Union :D

And I heard Hell March 3 is awesome.

Vindicare

10-29-2008, 05:52 AM

So far the game is great but I have encountered 2 campaign glitches.

1. I believe its the 5th soviet mission...I think I completed an objective to fast (a scripted even should have happened before the objective) and the mission got stuck and wouldn't progress.

2. Similar event in the 4th Allied mission. Completed the mission but the game got stuck in a in game cutscene mode.

Minor Glitches but both missions were a bit tedious so its going to suck to have to go through them again.

apple23

10-29-2008, 07:34 AM

is the singleplayer gameplay good?

If that is decent.... I am totally buying this game today.

Annihlator :D

10-29-2008, 02:58 PM

And from here on out, could you put things concerning your first hand experience about the game in spoiler tags? I don't wan't anything about this game ruined :p

Vindicare

10-29-2008, 05:51 PM

Don't worry I was taking care not to reveal anything about the storyline. Apple So far I'd say the single-player is fun but.....it feels like its lacking something. I'm not 100% sure what but I would give the single player a 7/10 and the overall game a 8.5 or 9 out of 10.

soadfan1

10-30-2008, 04:40 AM

c&c single player has been lacking something for a long time now, and the Red Alert canon is one that should have a great single player, not just a refined multiplayer.

Do the missions play out in much the similar way they have since ra2?

I.e not particuarly tough, merely waiting long enough to wittle down the computer? Where they might sometimes take a long time but the mission is never ever in danger of being failed.

Thats the downside to creating a refined multiplayer game, it becomes too easy to destroy computer opponents. Single player needs to be treated very differently to Multiplayer. Its not just about scripting sequences and events that seem 'cool' or about pretty buildings and effects. It's about making sure that youre always on edge, like claiming that next ecomomy boost is the most important thing and its not easy to do so. Maybe missions without bases are the best thing to do, even though usually even they give you more reinforcements than you need.

I'll see when I try it anyway.

apple23

10-30-2008, 08:02 AM

Thats the downside to creating a refined multiplayer game, it becomes too easy to destroy computer opponents.
Not if you design the AI well.

Anyways, the singleplayer is likely not going to be its strongsuit; it's very impressive multiplayer gameplay and balance be its strongsuit, however aftermarket support will ensure its longevity in the long run.

EliteGi

10-30-2008, 12:05 PM

Realistically the game isn't going to be balanced until at least a couple of patches from now. That's if it does get the sufficient aftermarket support to balance it...

Derek

10-30-2008, 12:37 PM

Well with the beta we got the first couple of balance patches out of the way. The game is actually quite well balanced right now, all factions are viable. The biggest new thing is that now we have more than two maps to try to figure out balance on.

EliteGi

10-30-2008, 12:40 PM

I'm aware of the whole Beta testing but I can't help thinking it'll be some time before the game is actually "well balanced". There's bound to be a few bugs here and there too but they should get sorted out on the first or second patch.

truefeel

10-30-2008, 01:56 PM

Realistically the game isn't going to be balanced until at least a couple of patches from now. That's if it does get the sufficient aftermarket support to balance it...
Very true, EGI. People will not have found all the tricks and full potentional of all the units and don't have the full view of the game, yet. Once that poors through, you'll see that the imbalances that are not yet known will get revealed.

Also agreed the IF. If I would had to do a SWOT analysis of EA, I would really take aftermarket support in weak section of it.
Looking at the huge problems with the serial codes, and more importantly the lack of speed solving the problem, I fear it will go the path of cnc3 on that front...

Derek

10-30-2008, 03:14 PM

The serial codes problem was fixed last night for most people, thats pretty quick. A few are still having problems though.

truefeel

10-30-2008, 03:28 PM

The serial codes problem was fixed last night for most people, thats pretty quick. A few are still having problems though.

Exactly my point.

Derek

10-30-2008, 04:37 PM

I think they're fixing them in waves or something, a few people who said they couldn't get on earlier today said they can now. Some still can't though.

Scoot

10-30-2008, 05:05 PM

Just finished the Sov. campaign. I spent the extra money, and got the Premier edition. The V4's look to much like the tanks from Generals. I can't think of the name right now.

SiDeWiNdEr

10-30-2008, 05:37 PM

My copy turned up today, Day early for me. Not released until tomorrow here!

Got stuck straight in on SP and I'm on... 7th? Mission for Soviets. So far haven't noticed any glitches or problems, seems to be pretty smooth.

Only thing I can't do is download the patch. Probably because it's being bombarded by far too many people at the mo. Thumbs up from me so far in any case.

soadfan1

10-30-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote from Lion -

I have been frustrated, yes. But mostly disappointed in EA for not being ready for the Red Alert 3 release. It did harm to the C&C community, and obviously didn't help EAs already dwindling reputation.

To be honest, I doubt I or anyone else could get EA to give us a detailed explanation. They are fully aware of the mess, and I'm quite sure wished it never happened. But communication is key with the fans. It will be swept under the carpet, and we'll move on.

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This is EXACTLY why I am going to try it before I buy it on this occasion. It was rushed out and has some pretty severe problems.

For all of those who are actually commending them for fixing them quickly, wtf?

You dont pay a builder extra because he bodges up the job by the time he said but fixes it quickly, it shouldnt have happened in the first place.

Not that I wish to gloat, but it seems us sceptics are being proved right already.

The game might be fun for those who can play, but from the sounds of it a lot are frustrated and cannot play the game they just paid for.

ArmoredBear

10-30-2008, 06:55 PM

Got it last night. Finished the Soviet campaign a few hours later - Single Player is pretty fun, but still not really difficult, I think I reloaded once, cause I got too aggressive and messed up. Skirmish I haven't played much of, but it runs smoothly, and it's kind of neat having the co-commanders as the AI players. Online I've only played two games on, both were smooth, since it's new, and not everyone played beta, they weren't long games.

The major annoyance I've had so far is the Black Screen problem which EA's already aware of. I really don't get how stuff like this, or non-working serial codes, or missing digits on CD keys slips through so easily - then again this is EA we're talking about, so it's not a surprise. I also am certain Gamespy will be an issue again - I really hope EA does what they said they would and finish their own Online system (although now that I think about it that might not be a good thing).
Overall, game is fun, but I really wish EA would have some smooth launches for a change. Having the game crash like 4 or 5 times is pretty irritating. At least that's the only major bug I've seen so far, and it doesn't appear like RA3 will be like Kane's Beta Test all over again.

Derek

10-30-2008, 07:24 PM

It was rushed out and has some pretty severe problems.
No, no it wasn't. The only launch issue so far has been the invalid serial key error, and that is being quickly fixed (most people had it fixed last night, even more have had it fixed today). Compared to the CNC3 launch and (oh god) the KW launch, this has been very smooth.

EliteGi

10-30-2008, 08:14 PM

ArmoredBear

10-30-2008, 09:54 PM

Exactly, though. It is poor, you have to admit. Every game seems to be rushed out of the door without sufficient quality control and testing. This serial key error is a basic error that should never have happened in the first place.

Hopefully it will be completely sorted in the near future and put behind us.
Yeah, I just don't get how no one picks up on this stuff. None of this affected me and it wasn't a major issue (only lasted a day) but I don't like how they said that both issues were completely out of their hands. Sure, it's not like Apoc is there running the game manual printing machine, it's not Greg Kasavin's job to deal with serial numbers, but something dumb like this happens with seemingly every EA game, so it's hard to really buy that.
Again though, the launch definitely wasn't a debacle or anything, RA3 is a lot more polished than past games have been, and so far, IMO it blows CNC3 away. Now we just have to hope they don't take 4 months to release a patch, and that the game gets good aftermarket support.

Miles

10-31-2008, 04:29 AM

I have the game and at this moment I... well I'm gonna spoiler tag all my post, you never know, it contains plot details. :)

So I'm getting to know the units. At this moment I make mainly Hammer Tanks and Sickles because well I don't know any better. I remember back when I played Generals for the first tie, I made BM after BM and Gatt after Gatt because I didn't know the game well enough.
I'm sure that as I play more missions and matches, I'll finetune my playing style and start getting better at micro-ing and start making more optimal unit mixes.
I really can't wait to share tactics with the rest of you. This time, I'll start playing against humans much sooner so that I get better along with the rest of you guys (in ZH you'd all pwn me).
A friend of mine bought the game yesterday too. We're planning to do whole campaign together.

The only thing that really surprised me is that as Soviets, you start fighting the Empire right at game start. I was expectnig a war against the Allies first and then suddenly the Empire would strike out of the blue.

soadfan1

10-31-2008, 04:35 AM

No, no it wasn't. The only launch issue so far has been the invalid serial key error, and that is being quickly fixed (most people had it fixed last night, even more have had it fixed today). Compared to the CNC3 launch and (oh god) the KW launch, this has been very smooth.

Yes, Yes it was lol. That isn't the only issue people have been having, not sure about being the only launch issue in particular though.

The black screens seem to be commonplace, they are also working to fix that.

Hell, c&c 3 and KW were even more rushed out I agree, but that doesnt stop from the simple fact, once again lots of people paying hard earnt money to a multi million company are let down at the first hurdle.

Dont confuse them finishing making the game with giving good support.
Also I love the self admittance with the less than professional way to get around one of the serial problems (one in 36 chance scenario).

Derek

10-31-2008, 08:56 AM

Also I love the self admittance with the less than professional way to get around one of the serial problems (one in 36 chance scenario).
lol, what, do you think they should send someone to your house to do it for you? They're telling people the fastest and easiest thing to do: Try 36 possibilities. Printing errors are not professional, but giving people the best solution is.

zeds_dead

10-31-2008, 10:20 AM

I got it yesterday and to be honest I'm just thankful it was made.
EA have a fair bit of experience of computer games, and will, im pretty sure sort any issues.

soadfan1

10-31-2008, 11:37 AM

lol, what, do you think they should send someone to your house to do it for you? They're telling people the fastest and easiest thing to do: Try 36 possibilities. Printing errors are not professional, but giving people the best solution is.

Lol no , but the error shouldnt have been made in the first place.

Its funny that after all the weeks of talking about how EA were going to fare at launchday its the skeptics who have been proved right. Theres no point in trying to defend EA, lets just see if after they fix the problems they carry on sorting things out for the months to come. Thats the next question as to whether we were right to doubt.

Even Lion agrees they messed up, so theres no use defending them.

Statalyzer

10-31-2008, 11:55 AM

Compared to the CNC3 launch and (oh god) the KW launch, this has been very smooth.

Damning with faint praise?

Derek

10-31-2008, 12:06 PM

Lol no , but the error shouldnt have been made in the first place.
No it shouldn't have, but 1) Its minor and 2) This isn't unprecedented. There was a similar problem with CoH (or maybe it was the expansion), and it was worse, you couldn't fix it with 36 tries, you had to get a whole new key. I also won't mentioned what happened to HL2 on launch day.

Its funny that after all the weeks of talking about how EA were going to fare at launchday its the skeptics who have been proved right.
When did anyone ever talk about how the launch was going to fare? Seriously?

lets just see if after they fix the problems they carry on sorting things out for the months to come. Thats the next question as to whether we were right to doubt.
Thats what I've been saying for months! Christ do you even read anyone else's posts?

Even Lion agrees they messed up, so theres no use defending them.
I'm not defending them, I'm just saying that you're blowing two minor problems completely out of proportion. Was it a smooth launch? No. Is everything fine two days later? Yes. And you're just using this as an excuse to pirate the game, exactly as we said you would.

soadfan1

10-31-2008, 12:37 PM

I dont need an excuse to pirate something.

However becase I never pirate c&c games, I have decided instead I am going to borrow it from a friend.

I think people actually said that if I downloaded it and played it illegally, I still wouldnt buy it even if I liked it, which isnt actually the case with me, because if I play it and like it I wish to buy it to play online with ease.

The problems might be minor to some but theyre not to others, especially those who dont come to forums and dont know what the hell to do. Not everyone who bought it was going to know what to do. This is why I and some others said, it is foolish to buy the game before its been out for a little while, unless you have loads of money because this kind of thing might happen.

Soviet779

10-31-2008, 03:16 PM

Its pathetic how some people defend EA even if they screw up. In fact its pathetic anyone defends EA at all.

Derek no wonder you have nearly 13k posts, you really do enjoy talking complete garbage.

Delta-4

10-31-2008, 03:50 PM

Gaucho8788

10-31-2008, 03:51 PM

Soviet you need to shut up right now. You are attacking people for no damn reason and this is the specific reason why people are hating you right now and is going to lead to you being banned. If your going to post then post something that is going to be constructive and will contribute to the current discussion.

ON topic, I haven't had a chance to get the game but I will probably get it before to long and from what I've read from most of you it sounds like it would be a good buy.

Avapodnaught

11-01-2008, 01:32 AM

:banghead:
I wants computer capable of playing my Kane's Wrath at full capacity and Ra3 and any capacity for online RA3 gaming smoothly :freek:

Edit: Who gave me some pale white rep?

Miles

11-01-2008, 08:23 AM

Its pathetic how some people defend EA even if they screw up. In fact its pathetic anyone defends EA at all.

Derek no wonder you have nearly 13k posts, you really do enjoy talking complete garbage.
God you're not a logical thinker are you? Does Derek enjoy the game? As far as I read from his posts, yes. Did Derek suffer from a nervous breakdown because of that serial key issue? No.
So conclusion: Derek is happy with the game which means he thinks EA did a good job with it.
Some of you really blow this way out of proportion and will look at any and I do mean ANY excuse, no matter how insignificant it is, to bash EA. I'm not saying they're perfect. Hell I didn't like C&C 3 and the fact that KW was a quickly put together rushed out game.
But RA3 is good, I'm having a lot of fun so I think EA did well on this.

Is it that hard to understand?

truefeel

11-01-2008, 08:51 AM

Some of you really blow this way out of proportion and will look at any and I do mean ANY excuse, no matter how insignificant it is, to bash EA. I'm not saying they're perfect. Hell I didn't like C&C 3 and the fact that KW was a quickly put together rushed out game.
But RA3 is good, I'm having a lot of fun so I think EA did well on this.

Well, I'm not bashing EA, but I find serial keys issues a significant problem. They are fixed, but such problems shouldn't occur in the first place. Not that problem will alter its awesome gameplay.

Its pathetic how some people defend EA even if they screw up. In fact its pathetic anyone defends EA at all.

Derek no wonder you have nearly 13k posts, you really do enjoy talking complete garbage.

Great, now try to make the same post based on solid arguments and leave out the flaming. Oh, wait: u can't. nvm.

Miles

11-01-2008, 10:02 AM

Well, I'm not bashing EA, but I find serial keys issues a significant problem. They are fixed, but such problems shouldn't occur in the first place. Not that problem will alter its awesome gameplay.I wasn't really referring to you in my previous post. I agree: things like that serial issue shouldn't take place at all in the first place, but it did, and it was fixed quickly.
There is no need to the EA-haters to keep on moaning about that. If they don't like the game, well so be it. Don't buy it, don't play it but stop bugging the people who do like it.

truefeel

11-01-2008, 10:21 AM

I wasn't really referring to you in my previous post. I agree: things like that serial issue shouldn't take place at all in the first place, but it did, and it was fixed quickly.

No, I just said my opinion on what you said :). It was fixed quickly, I have to give EA that.

There is no need to the EA-haters to keep on moaning about that. If they don't like the game, well so be it. Don't buy it, don't play it but stop bugging the people who do like it.

I agree, people who see EA as pure evil are ignorant, however we can't deny the weaknesses of EA too. Either way, you need to be critical.

Avapodnaught

11-01-2008, 02:43 PM

I agree, people who see EA as pure evil are ignorant, however we can't deny the weaknesses of EA too. Either way, you need to be critical.
You can choose to be critical or not....
/me chooses to be critical about how others enjoy great gameplay and he doesn't

Derek

11-01-2008, 03:10 PM

I agree, people who see EA as pure evil are ignorant, however we can't deny the weaknesses of EA too. Either way, you need to be critical.
I don't think you need to be critical, you just need to be fair. My stance is that I just all games independently. Even past games have been **** ups, as long as a new game looks like it is good I will get. I had no plans of getting RA3 originally, it looked quite bad. But as they released more information and then the Beta, I changed my opinion because they showed a great focus on quality gameplay. Now they have released a very solid game. There are problems, especially with the poorly designed online interface, and some things wait to be seen (support, especially support for the expansion). But I got the game because the core gameplay was good.

Annihlator :D

11-01-2008, 09:24 PM

And from here on out, could you put things concerning your first hand experience about the game in spoiler tags? I don't wan't anything about this game ruined :p

I'd just like to point that i got a neg-rep for this, from soviet. :p

truefeel

11-02-2008, 04:22 AM

I don't think you need to be critical, you just need to be fair. My stance is that I just all games independently. Even past games have been **** ups, as long as a new game looks like it is good I will get. I had no plans of getting RA3 originally, it looked quite bad. But as they released more information and then the Beta, I changed my opinion because they showed a great focus on quality gameplay. Now they have released a very solid game. There are problems, especially with the poorly designed online interface, and some things wait to be seen (support, especially support for the expansion). But I got the game because the core gameplay was good.

When I say critical, I mean both on a negative and positive way (positive critic exists). When buying, you should be this way. This means of course being a bit informed. You just had been critical as well, so it's not such a problem. Anyone who does not buy the game based on the name only, does this.

Delta-4

11-02-2008, 07:55 AM

I'd just like to point that i got a neg-rep for this, from soviet. :p
"****"

truefeel

11-02-2008, 08:53 AM

IS it even possible to neg-rep someone, when someone has such a bad rep like soviet ?

Derek

11-02-2008, 09:19 AM

IS it even possible to neg-rep someone, when someone has such a bad rep like soviet ?
It just appears as a grey dot and doesn't actually affect your reputation :p

truefeel

11-02-2008, 02:13 PM

Hmm, that's why I have alot of grey in my rep list

Fires1

11-02-2008, 02:36 PM

I just got it yesterday.
How do you combat/protect your base defenses against the red circle tornado thing that sucks up your defenders?
So far I like the game. Wish it had a way of adjusting game speed for skirmishes, only because I like to Turtle...:)
Can't wait for the mods and new maps to come out.. :color4::color2::color1:

truefeel

11-02-2008, 03:17 PM

Do you mean the vacuum bomb ??

If so, you can't defend against it. You need to destroy the building generating it

ArmoredBear

11-02-2008, 03:46 PM

Do you mean the vacuum bomb ??

If so, you can't defend against it. You need to destroy the building generating it
I think he's talking about the Soviet tractor beam. You'll see some smoke where it's going to fire up, and it takes a few seconds before it does so. Just move everything away. It still might be a little too powerful but oh well. If it's not what you're talking about then ignore this.

Fires1

11-02-2008, 03:47 PM

Do you mean the vacuum bomb ??

If so, you can't defend against it. You need to destroy the building generating it

Yes, thats it truefeel. I've been carpetbombing his AB to control it. Didn't know if there were something else to protect from it.
Thanks

Miles

11-02-2008, 04:15 PM

The Soviet tractor beam owns. After you tossed all that stuff in space, you just dump it back down with the Orbital Dump.
Oh I love the Soviets.
But yeah, once you see the flare, you have like one or two seconds to move your units away. As for the Vacuum Imploder... it's a superweapon. The only way to stop it is to power the base down or destroy the building. Whenever my opponent makes his superweapon in Skirmish I either to hit and run it with Twinblades, or I bomb it with Dreadnoughts if I already have those or I use the Orbital Pourdown and the Vacuum Imploder on it in case of emergency.

wowgolds987

11-05-2008, 08:45 PM

So far the game is great but I have encountered 2 campaign glitches.

1. I believe its the 5th soviet mission...I think I completed an objective to fast (a scripted even should have happened before the objective) and the mission got stuck and wouldn't progress.

2. Similar event in the 4th Allied mission. Completed the mission but the game got stuck in a in game cutscene mode.
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