Its The End!

[Coldwar05]

aww I cant believe this will be the end of tiberium series :(. Oh well this game looks epic!

[eLDiablo]

Because what we need is more stalling.

[Coldwar05]

Well, I am gonna miss C&C tiberium series... because thats what got me hooked in C&C.

[eLDiablo]

Because as we all know, once you've played it, you can never go back?

Firstly, the game isn't due out for a long time.
Secondly, I guarantee you this won't END the tiberium series; just the TD/TS/TW storyline.

[Coldwar05]

Hmm I hope...

[Warheart]

While we can only really speak to Command & Conquer 4 at this time, it is safe to say that the conclusion of the Tiberium saga is not the end of the Tiberium Universe as a whole.


From the interview.

[zgtrman97]

Because as we all know, once you've played it, you can never go back?

Firstly, the game isn't due out for a long time.
Secondly, I guarantee you this won't END the tiberium series; just the TD/TS/TW storyline.


here is how I see it playing out...tiberium overtakes the planet making it uninhabital for humans. The Scrin take over Earth forcing the human population to either adapt to the Scrin ala Borg style OR evacuate Earth and settle on another planet. Which will open the door for CnC ala Starcraft style.
CnC The Space Wars...lolz!

[kyle]

here is how I see it playing out...tiberium overtakes the planet making it uninhabital for humans. The Scrin take over Earth forcing the human population to either adapt to the Scrin ala Borg style OR evacuate Earth and settle on another planet. Which will open the door for CnC ala Starcraft style.
CnC The Space Wars...lolz!

I somehow seem to recall saying a LOOONG ass time ago that the last place C&C could go was into space...
Adding an afterthought to that idea which I had a long time ago, I do not think it could end there, either. It seems very well possible that a forth dimension would follow the space game, in which units would phase in and out of the playing field at random (and in between multiple games), causing the player to lose his/her mind out of sheer annoyance after their nuke missile disappears in to a trans-dimensional vortex for the seventh time in a row, thus blowing up the base of some poor bloke off in a separate online game who was just trying to build a cool looking base by himself (Causing said person (Me) to lose his mind as well)

[starscream007]

All CnC 4 is doing is ending the official story line, they hinted that there will be more Tiberian series games in the future. I honestly hope they would resurrect Tiberium.

[Fenring]

I honestly hope they would resurrect Tiberium.
Fat chance. It got canned like Renegade 2 and it's never, never coming back. That's probably a good thing too. Because if EA said it sucks, then it must really suck.

[Ivan_Moscavich]

Fat chance. It got canned like Renegade 2 and it's never, never coming back. That's probably a good thing too. Because if EA said it sucks, then it must really suck.

Although, using reverse thought ideology, what sucks for them, might actualy be good for old fans?

I mean if you look at it that way, wouldn't it mean that it is bad for their wants, their desires, not nessicarily that of the fans themselves. We were never left to determine if they were good or bad, we just have to take EA's word.

"Oh, you won't like this, trust us."

It just seems a little odd to me.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not a proponent for either side of this argument, I'm just calling the situation like I see it.

[starscream007]

Fat chance. It got canned like Renegade 2 and it's never, never coming back. That's probably a good thing too. Because if EA said it sucks, then it must really suck.


Well to my understanding Tiberium was basically going to combine Renegade with Battlefield so I did have high hopes for it.

[Thumper]

just because they are closing the story dont mean the series is over.

[pipinowns]

They will probably end the game by opening up a new storyline for future tiberium games. Although the storyline may not feature Kane, this still basically means this isn't the end at all, but just the next installment. :|

[HawkEye1102002]

I wonder if EA will make a new C&C universe, or continue where they left off with Generals.

Somehow I suspect within time, they will forget about Tiberium and concentrate on a compleatly new universe

I wonder will we see Battlefield: Tiberium in the future and if EA has decided all strategy games now will carry the C&C title on it...

[Frost Phantom]

they're just giving the official storyline an ending, but as long as they can make money out of it, they will prolly keep making spin off games, kinda like how bungie is now releasing games like Halo: ODST and Halo: Reach even after the offical storyling has ended.

[David_belgae]

Whatever the case may be, or whatever reason behind it... I am kinda glad.
Problem is, I am getting older, so does Joe Kucan and well, times change.

And it does not mean that because Kane his story is finished, a new one (involving Scrin) cannot be written.
Something tells me, that in the ending, a small cliffhanger will be there. Opening the way for something without Kane, possibly without Tiberium but involving Scrin or something else.

So that will be GDI + Nod (under a new name) vs Scrin or some other enemy. (although I do not see which could follow up Nod or GDI if not Scrin.) :happysad:

I cannot get rid of the feeling that this is a quick getaway of EA to let the Tiberium storyline die as fast as possible, because they have (or feel like they have) made a mess of it, or are no longer interested into keeping someone elses dream/universe alive. So they will shape it into their vision. :chin:

But, i'm happy. Just do not ask why, it is personal. ;)

[starscream007]

Apparently now new info has surfaced that they are just going to end Kane as a character, explain his origins and whatnot.

[Thumper]

oh crap. wolverine origins...

[Frost Phantom]

lol
there will prolly be an expansion with the scrin returning...i hope, scrin tended to mix things up a bit in non 1v1 multiplayer games...

[Coldwar05]

Whatever the case may be, or whatever reason behind it... I am kinda glad.
Problem is, I am getting older, so does Joe Kucan and well, times change.

And it does not mean that because Kane his story is finished, a new one (involving Scrin) cannot be written.
Something tells me, that in the ending, a small cliffhanger will be there. Opening the way for something without Kane, possibly without Tiberium but involving Scrin or something else.

So that will be GDI + Nod (under a new name) vs Scrin or some other enemy. (although I do not see which could follow up Nod or GDI if not Scrin.) :happysad:

I cannot get rid of the feeling that this is a quick getaway of EA to let the Tiberium storyline die as fast as possible, because they have (or feel like they have) made a mess of it, or are no longer interested into keeping someone elses dream/universe alive. So they will shape it into their vision. :chin:

But, i'm happy. Just do not ask why, it is personal. ;)


Well I think the GDI and NOD might be less likely to be there. What idea that had hit me prohapps they remove GDI and NOD, but replace them with entirely new fractions, knowing EA... this seems likely.

[Frost Phantom]

knowing EA, they'd prolly go for the MOST cliche and generic ending they could possibly think of....
the ending will be:
a fade into a white screen, then zooms out to some guy suddenly waking up saying "phew, that was just a dream!"

and if you could thinking of an ending worse than that, well then thats prolly what EA will go with....

[Coldwar05]

Ha, (in my opinion) EA isnt gonna just throw the idea entirely away... because I think there is some money to continue it some how in some kind of way...

As Frost said serval post back I think I see where you' re coming from the whole storyline ends be then they go back 20 years before Halo 1... but I am hoping for the game of the Birth of Tiberium had started.... how and why Kane started NOD.



Probly gonna be my last post on CNCDEN... I fill more disrespected than anyone on this and pretty much always critized -.-... things arent looking good for me on here unlike cnc-247 :/

[Dracaveli]

Disrespect on this board ( or any other) is a virtue...always remember a lot of what you type or mistype is lost in translation.

as far as EA in my view, if they are inclined to remember their roots ( Im talking Desert Strike: Return to the Gulf) they might bring us a gem with a new take on the Tiberium saga.....but with RA3 it may be wishful thinking on my part.

[Coldwar05]

Disrespect on this board ( or any other) is a virtue...always remember a lot of what you type or mistype is lost in translation.


Disrespect or not :/ I am rather annoyed... lastly... No one really replies on topics that I need replies on like if anyone likes to play a 2 v 2 tounrament...

-.- And I believe my rep is going down a point or 2 a week :/ so ill be under 300 by december if the rate of this go down... my threads are less looked at and I am lossing intereast in this site for lack replies...

[apple23]

that is in no way whatsoever disrespect to you. They are simply posting the facts, and correcting you. The facts are: this will end the old tiberian storyline, but it wont be the last installment in the CNC/tiberian universe.

[Coldwar05]

its more disrespectful things being added to my rep though :P anyway... :\ I am busy working on my tournament, Ill be on a lot less for now.

back to the topic though... if they do end tiberium (I highly dought it) I hope they come up with something interesting.

[Statalyzer]

Rep is just a silly system, don't worry about it.

[Annihlator :D]

Rep is just a silly system, don't worry about it.

What? No. Rep is everything. Without it my life would be nothing. :rockbrow:

Also, gotta say I'm not excited for the end. It just feels so... final ._.

[Coldwar05]

Have you guys heard some news how the money will be command points... oh boy... lets make things harder... btw here isa link for some frequent updates from CNC 247 :)

http://cnc-247.com/news.php , we got updates.... well a couple of pages of things on CNC 4.

[Dracaveli]

Great read, that article about "ea_spouse" makes me regret giving EA the benefit of the doubt when others called them cash cows. I for one will not purchase another product from them which includes CNC4, my brother is huge fan of EA sport titles, when I show em that article he will stop purchases as well.

Wanton destruction of my current EA titles will not happen, why destroy wealth.:hyper:

[Derek]

Do you even realize that that article is five years old?

[Dracaveli]

Date aside, I don't like slave labor legal or not, also the fact that a fellow that is well freindly with former president Bush is on the board of EA. I forgot the name but ran accross that info of one of my many surfs over the net. The outsourcing policy of EA and others suggest they will repeat the practice again.

[Camel]

Do you even realize that that article is five years old?


:rockbrow:Do you realize, half the people here think you are an overbearing know-it-all, who presumes he is infallible??:squint:

[Dracaveli]

livemint.co/ the wall street journal nov 2008

Hyderabad: The world’s largest game developer, Electronic Arts Inc. (EA), is scouting for Indian partners to outsource game development and reduce costs.

[Derek]

:rockbrow:Do you realize, half the people here think you are an overbearing know-it-all, who presumes he is infallible??:squint:
With all due respect, thats just not true.

livemint.co/ the wall street journal nov 2008

Hyderabad: The world’s largest game developer, Electronic Arts Inc. (EA), is scouting for Indian partners to outsource game development and reduce costs.
Were you trying to link to an article here?

[Frost Phantom]

who cares.
their currency is worth less, hell, with their national GDP and wage standards, from a financial point of view, their people are worth less in monetary value. why shouldnt richer, more powerful groups take advantage of that.
i'd rather pay $10 for something made by cheap overseas labor than pay $100 for the same thing made by our workers.

morally wrong? definitely. but hey someones gotta do the grunt work and it might as well not be me or any one else at our social level. much easier to let the weaker societies serve us. elitism FTW

[eLDiablo]

morally wrong? definitely. but hey someones gotta do the grunt work and it might as well not be me or any one else at our social level. much easier to let the weaker societies serve us. elitism FTW
Enjoy your oppression.

[Derek]

morally wrong? definitely. but hey someones gotta do the grunt work and it might as well not be me or any one else at our social level. much easier to let the weaker societies serve us. elitism FTW
Is it morally wrong? If you don't buy from them, these people would probably not have jobs at all. Even meager pay is better than nothing, you could quite literally be keeping some of these people alive.

And I am not sarcastic, nor am I playing devil's advocate. I am entirely serious.

[Coldwar05]

hm... seems off topic but w/e :/

as a side note.. thanks for the + rep...

[Frost Phantom]

Enjoy your oppression.
you are currently using a computer either made in a poorer country or using resources gathered in a poorer country, at a fraction of the cost of making it purely from our own resources and labor.

just about everything we have in modern western society is supplied to us by less developed societies. simply because all in all, we are superior. maybe not morally speaking, but in terms of all that matters (money, military, technology, health, etc), we are years ahead of them, and that gives us the ability and power to do whatever we want. if that means making them work for minimal pay so that we can keep up our comfortable lifestyles, then so be it.

so no, its not oppression. we are free to choose to not abuse our advanced society, but we dont because it is easier. but as long as we have the bigger guns and large bank accounts, no one can do anything about it. the poorer countries can choose to not work for our corporations, but they choose not to because the alternative for them is far worse.

[Alpha and Omega]

just about everything we have in modern western society is supplied to us by less developed societies. simply because all in all, we are superior.

First, no, learn2globalism.
Aside from rare minerals (like titanium, which the U.S. gets mostly from Russia, or chromium, which comes from South Africa), a majority of the products in the U.S. are made using U.S. materials. A lot of it is assembled in places like China, or Malaysia, but 90% of the "modern" articles on Earth were produced in either the U.S. or the EU.
If you buy a Mac computer, it is produced in Silicon Valley, California - then assembled in Shanghai - then shipped to you. The materials and expertise come from the U.S.

Second, a superior society wouldn't need any help producing these items. It's only out of mutual understanding and respect that we share our manufacturing techniques with other societies and nations.

[Frost Phantom]

its assembled in china because the labor there is far cheaper.
everything is about maximizing profit. respect and mutual understanding definitely arent the reason that we pay them 10% of the minimum wage here to make things.

i never said superior societies needed help making things, just that its easier and cheaper to let third world/developing countries make them for us.

[eLDiablo]

you are currently using a computer either made in a poorer country or using resources gathered in a poorer country, at a fraction of the cost of making it purely from our own resources and labor.

just about everything we have in modern western society is supplied to us by less developed societies. simply because all in all, we are superior. maybe not morally speaking, but in terms of all that matters (money, military, technology, health, etc), we are years ahead of them, and that gives us the ability and power to do whatever we want. if that means making them work for minimal pay so that we can keep up our comfortable lifestyles, then so be it.

so no, its not oppression. we are free to choose to not abuse our advanced society, but we dont because it is easier. but as long as we have the bigger guns and large bank accounts, no one can do anything about it. the poorer countries can choose to not work for our corporations, but they choose not to because the alternative for them is far worse.

Blah blah blah blah blah.

Read your own wording.

but hey someones gotta do the grunt work and it might as well not be me or any one else at our social level. much easier to let the weaker societies serve us. elitism FTW
Oppression.

[truefeel]

Now now ladies, keep your handbags from eachothers face and get along very nicely.

[Alpha and Omega]

everything is about maximizing profit. respect and mutual understanding definitely arent the reason that we pay them 10% of the minimum wage here to make things.

If that were true, slavery would still be legal.

[Frost Phantom]

yeah, well, thers plenty of annoying do gooders out there now that will refuse to buy from companies obviously using slavery. which means it will lower profits.

companies now are investing in "green energy" not because they want to pour millions into experimental research....its simply cuz thats the way to go right now, and following the trend is easier and cheaper than to go against it. eg lots of people now are considering greenhouse emissions when they are buying things, partly because some governments have started a "green" tax, making high greenhouse emission products more expensive.

public opinion is a very important part of marketing.

[Coldwar05]

Ok if we are going to continue this chat... can it please be put in the correct thread and catagory... i keep coming to see something on topic...