Why did I lose to cpus and why did they gang up on me?

[bradhig]

The only cheating I did was a modded ini that allows me to get all general powers and several upgrades cheap for my side but it didn't do any good. I couldn't control supply dock in town and was getting overrun. What did I do wrong? I can't ever beat Ai's without cheating. AIs cheat.

[Daishi]

Sorry, outsmarting a bunch of 1s and 0s that has numerous statistical advantages over me is not my strength.

[bradhig]

Sorry, outsmarting a bunch of 1s and 0s that has numerous statistical advantages over me is not my strength.


online play isn't any better its overrun with scudbuggers ,map hacker ,etc and is overrated. I don't have the router setup to allow online play anyway cause I would get beaten as easily as those AI's beat me.

[C4]

First, AI cheats, period! Hard armies have their units with +20% rate of fire, +20 HP. Ai also receive $5000-$10000 cash amounts from time to time. Be aware of that.
It doesn't make cheating by you legitimate. So you started the wrong path. Instead you should focus on learning the game, see some replays and test yourself. Tbh, you don't know the basics of the game yet.

Second, the AI didn't team up against you. It fights whomever it crosses. In fact, you were barely attacked. Had they teamed up, you'd be steamrolled in seconds, as soon as they arrive to your base.

online play isn't any better its overrun with scudbuggers ,map hacker ,etc and is overrated. I don't have the router setup to allow online play anyway cause I would get beaten as easily as those AI's beat me.
Online play may suffer from some buggers and cheaters but it offers a much better chance of playing a decent match. Quickmatch offers plenty of chances for you to learn since there's all kind of players there. But start by studying the game further. You still have a lot to learn about it.
You can visit this forum's replay section to find some good play there and even join us on Sundays for a game.
Oh and avoid playing skirmishes with hard AI. It teaches you nothing but bunker up, and that, i assure you, will not work vs an human. ;)

[bradhig]

Is there any way to modify the ai scripts so it can't instabuild stuff and doesn't get free money after it loses its oil derricks ,supply depots, and other means of income?

[Derek]

Probably, but I don't know how.

[tanhc13]

try a mod? then mod their files from there^_^ and if u only play a specific side then u can mod the mod so that it is in ur favor
IE:u=america so you mod it to:
3 points per rank
fuel air bomb acquired at rank 1
fuel air bomb reloads in 100 mili sec
Nuke=10 min
Scud=10 min
PUC=1sec
such are the advantages u can have if u mod the mod XD
you can also mod it to:
the units and buildings on your side build immediately for free
enemy's units take FOREVER to build and cost like 10k per unit XD
of course that would require constant testing and editing but that would save you from dying too soon and of course take the fun away...

[tanhc13]

hmm im new to using replays how to work this replay?

[C4]

try a mod? then mod their files from there^_^ and if u only play a specific side then u can mod the mod so that it is in ur favor
IE:u=america so you mod it to:
3 points per rank
fuel air bomb acquired at rank 1
fuel air bomb reloads in 100 mili sec
Nuke=10 min
Scud=10 min
PUC=1sec
such are the advantages u can have if u mod the mod XD
you can also mod it to:
the units and buildings on your side build immediately for free
enemy's units take FOREVER to build and cost like 10k per unit XD
of course that would require constant testing and editing but that would save you from dying too soon and of course take the fun away...
Bad start mate. Coming into a ZH forum to bring that kind of ideas is a bit insulting. Take a look around and you'll quickly realize this is not that kind of forum.:hmm:

[Fenring]

err... the ZH AI is the only C&C AI I know of that can actually RUN out of money. I know any before cannot, and will not, run out.

I don't see what's so hard about the ZH AI. I can do a 1v7 hard AIs and win on vZH. :/

[tanhc13]

Bad start mate. Coming into a ZH forum to bring that kind of ideas is a bit insulting. Take a look around and you'll quickly realize this is not that kind of forum.:hmm:
oh my bad:redface: but i thought this is for both ZH and generals? if your talking about zh im sorry... zh has cooler upgrades :rofl:

[C4]

oh my bad:redface: but i thought this is for both ZH and generals? if your talking about zh im sorry... zh has cooler upgrades :rofl:
It is for both Gen and ZH and my phrase applies to both. Modding to provide unfair advantages as the ones you suggest i call cheating.
Improve through other methods mate.:)

[tanhc13]

It is for both Gen and ZH and my phrase applies to both. Modding to provide unfair advantages as the ones you suggest i call cheating.
Improve through other ethods mate.:)
kk btw i tried his senario and i found that:
1. they attack whoever thats on their flanks
2. try not to play 4 player maps with ai
3. dont play against SWG
4. why were u just sitting there like duck? u werent doing anything ...

[C4]

kk btw i tried his senario and i found that:
1. they attack whoever thats on their flanks
2. try not to play 4 player maps with ai
3. dont play against SWG
4. why were u just sitting there like duck? u werent doing anything ...
Well, you noticed it right, as i already told him. There's no motive to avoid SWG though, she's not that strong or anything. She camps a little better due to her patriots, that's all.
Definetly our mate there need to have a look at the basics first and make his moves. He really didn't do anything.

[Frost Phantom]

zh ai arent even all that smart anyways and they definitely dont cheat as bad as insane AI from W3 or brutal AI from C&C3!

play online or watch some tournament match replays and learn strategies from some of the best players around. you shouldnt make the game easier just because you're new to the game, you'll never improve if you do.

[SirSnake]

Problem: One cannot beat AI.


Solution: Bottle of whiskey. Then no matter what happens it'll _look_ like you're winning.

I got to lvl 45 on WC3 1v1 with that strategm!

[tanhc13]

LOL btw the AIs on the map attacks >>> then <<< then .... im not sure...
so what i did:
SW gen, camp <<<
then cut the enemy down as fast as u can up and down. so while they thrash the AI>>>>>
u thrash them up side down =D.

[Frost Phantom]

personaly, im not a fan of camping against AI. they are usualy too stupid to counter any well coordinated attacked, ie take out power then roll in with armor. and since units become veterans after blowing up a base or two, it gets even easier to flatten AI's after the first two victories....

[C4]

personaly, im not a fan of camping against AI. they are usualy too stupid to counter any well coordinated attacked, ie take out power then roll in with armor. and since units become veterans after blowing up a base or two, it gets even easier to flatten AI's after the first two victories....
Right. Even a single player game can be turned into an improving experience. It's up to the player.